Hi there, Sorry, I should have checked the JIRAs first :)..would have saved me the code digging. This one does seem to cover the future implementation of declarative task history auditing : https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2416 I will open a JIRA on the other issue (start form params not being available till we have a task in the process). The use case for us was that a user submits a help request form. On this form s/he makes some selections which drive decisions immediately on the form submission (eg is a lab approval needed etc). You can associate forms with the start activity in JBPM4. We got the idea from the updated taskform sample here: http://www.jorambarrez.be/blog/2009/07/21/jbpm-4-0-basic-taskform-tutoria... (thanks Joram - that was a great blog entry. Very clear explanations - Helped kickstart our pilot ) Regards, Lalit View the original post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4248483#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.org/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...