True, I understand the current implementation but in my view functionally they shouldnt be different things. I feel you need to be able to have them to be the same thing i.e. when a task has a deadline(duedate) I would like to have the process instance be able to do two optional things: 1. escalate via a transition to another step in the process whilst deleting the original task 2. send an escalation message as a sort of notice therefore taking a transition out of the node but leaving the task sit where it is to just notify someone the task is now overdue. The above scenario seems pretty common in commercial tooling and I am kinda strugling to fit this into jBPM I guess.. Greetz Leo "kukeltje" wrote : task due date and timer due date are 2 different things, even when used on a task. So therefor the task duedate is empty even though there can be a timer with a duedate. We cannot automatically fill it with the duedate of a timer since that can be a very different thing.... View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4176069#... Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&a...