Ok, great. Thanks, Edson.
Vlad
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Subject: Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?
Vlad,
It will result in exactly the same as removing the exists. So, you
shall get not problem with that.
In fact, we have a logic optimizer/transformer that does some
transformations/optimizations and I will add that as a simple optimization.
[]s
Edson
Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:
In effect, is such construct is allowed now in 3.1M?
not (
exists MyObject2(field == 'value')
)
I'm just not sure what 'not' element as an 'existential operation'
will do
in case it's passed 'boolean' result as an operand. Would it act as a
logical negation? I understand that the above construct can be simply
expressed by removing 'exists' altogether, but the problem is that the
above
is the result of 'automatic template' generation (ie, there is
a sequence
of
columns with 'exists' and 'not' elements and in case
there is only one such
element the generation might result in the above construct).
Thanks,
Vlad
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[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Edson Tirelli
Sent: 20 February 2007 16:30
To: Rules Users List
Subject: Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?
No, the "not" conditional element is an existential operator, so the
meaning is what you expressed in your first example. I thought that was
what you were looking for, but apparently it is not.
I never heard about any construction capable of doing what you are
asking for in a rules engine... maybe someone else can throw some light
in...
[]s
Edson
Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:
>So, if used like that, 'not' does not have 'existential' meaning then,
but
>simple 'negation'? I mean, the expression
>
> not MyObject(field == 'value')
>
>would still mean 'not exists', correct? Would the expression
>
> not (MyObject(field == 'value'))
>
>mean
>
> MyObject(field != 'value')
>
>then. In other worlds, "all objects OTHER then those matching the
>constraint"?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Vlad
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Edson Tirelli
>Sent: 20 February 2007 14:37
>To: Rules Users List
>Subject: Re: [rules-users] logical 'not' - is there such a construct?
>
> Vlad,
>
>In 3.1M1 you can write:
>
>rule X
>when
>not (
>MyObject( aaa == "bbb" ) and
>MyObject2( bbb == "aaa" )
>)
>then
>// do something
>end
>
>But remember that variables bound inside the "not" block are not avaible
>in the consequence for obvious reasons.
>
>[]s
>Edson
>
>Olenin, Vladimir (MOH) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I wonder if there is logical 'not' operator (in the meaning of
"!=" ->
>>'not equal') which can be applied to the whole rule? Eg:
>>
>>Rule x
>>
>>When
>>
>>! (
>>
>>MyObject(aaa == "bbb")
>>
>>MyObject2(bbb == "aaa")
>>
>>)
>>
>>Then
>>
>>// do smth
>>
>>End
>>
>>Basically I'm looking for an operator to reverse the evaluation result
>>of the expression in the brackets. The use case: in my system all
>>rules are defined from 'rule passes' prospective, while the
>>application should take some action in case the rule is NOT passed
>>(ie, 'else' case).
>>
>>Any way to do that except reformulating the constraints themselves?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Vlad
>>
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