Re: [rules-users] Drools Java and .Net

-----Original Message----- From: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users- bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of FrankVhh Sent: 02 February 2011 08:41 To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org Subject: Re: [rules-users] Drools Java and .Net Hi all, Thanks for your inputs. As you suggested, this week I tried to use IKVM to make Drools and .NET work together. Converting the Java implementation of drools to dll, importing dll into .NET and calling the java functions isn't that hard, once you are a little bit familiar with ikvm. No syntax errors in Visual Studio when I do this. However, there seems to be going something wrong on execution. It appears to me that the execution environment does not recognize the "drools- language". The execution crashes on the first call of Drools code (knowledgebuilderfactory.new KnowledgeBuilder()) with the errors: - IllegalArgumentException : Unable to instantiate service for Class 'org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactoryService" - ClassNotFoundException: org.drools.builder.impl.KnowledgeBuilderFactoryServiceImpl This means there are some dependancies missing, right? But should I be looking to add some jars to the IKVM-JVM? Or is this definitely a problem of wrong jar to dll conversion? Corneil, could you tell me whether you ran into dependancy problems as well? fyi I also tried to import the drools library as dll into .NET and then rewrite the entire wrapping code in .NET. This didn't return any syntax errors either, but got stuck in execution as well. (With same errors). Regards, Frank Corneil du Plessis wrote: > > We have successfully used IKVM to create a dlls for our Drools > application. > > The performance was a bit slower on IKVM/.Net as in Sun Java 5. > We dynamically load a large number of rules and found the largest impact > is to the 'load time' > > The performance impact was not such that it would make a network call > viable; especially with 1000s of clients. > > Apart from the performance impact the behaviour is exactly the same. > > On 25/01/2011 17:04, FrankVhh wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Suppose that you have a rule engine that needs to be embedded on the >> machine >> and that there is no way to call the rules as a service from a >> centralized >> server, what approach would one have to choose to make Drools and .NET >> work? >> >> The rulke engine will have to be cached to improve performance, so that >> part, until there is an up-to-date version of Drools.NET, has to be in >> Java >> anyway. Then you expose your JAVA code as a (local) service and let .NET >> call it? Or am I seeing things wrong here? >> >> I must stipulate that I am not an expert in .NET at all, and I know only >> barely enough Java to get Drools working :-). >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Kind regards, >> Frank >> >> >> salaboy wrote: >>> Yes, and if you want to use the rule engine from .NET you can use the >>> Drools >>> Server that expose the Drools Runtime in REST and SOAP interfaces :) >>> Greetings. >>> >>> 2011/1/19 Michael Anstis&lt;michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I believe the .NET implementation of Drools is somewhat out dated. >>>> >>>> However Drools ticks all your other requirements. >>>> >>>> With kind regards, >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> 2011/1/19 Gorantla, Bhaskar (GE Capital)&lt;bhaskar.gorantla(a)ge.com&gt; >>>> >>>>> We are looking for a rules engine that has the following >>>>> characteristics. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1. Supports both Java and .net >>>>> >>>>> 2. Provides a business user friendly UI for creating/editing >>>>> rules >>>>> >>>>> 3. Supports versioning >>>>> >>>>> 4. The rues in the rules repository are accessible to both Java >>>>> and >>>>> .net applications – Nice to have >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Do you know whether Drools supports all the above? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> rules-users mailing list >>>>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> rules-users mailing list >>>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com >>> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com >>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar >>> >>> - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio - >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> > > -- > > Corneil du Plessis - Software Architect > > TSC Technologies (Pty) Ltd > (o) +27 11 431 1666 > (f) +27 86 674 2962 > (c) +27 82 530 9259 > Email: corneil(a)tsctech.com <mailto:corneil@tsctech.com> > www.tsctech.com <http://www.tsctech.com> > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -- View this message in context: http://drools-java-rules- engine.46999.n3.nabble.com/Drools-Java-and-Net-tp2290536p2403895.html Sent from the Drools - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users