RE: [rules-users] Re: Drools and BRMS (60,000+ rules)

We would probably use the existing server side code and extent the current BRMS client UI, to satisfy our needs. By designing our BRMS I mostly meant designing the structure of all our rule domains, rules/packages and facts (courses/learning units). Len ________________________________ From: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mark Proctor Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:02 AM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Re: Drools and BRMS (60,000+ rules) Carlsen, Len wrote: This is very cool and is exactly what we will need for our new open source SIS. Once we have designed our BRMS then we will look more closely at Drools Solver (especially after the ITC competition). Are you writting your own BRMS from scratch? Are there any particular issues with the BRMS at the moment that would warrant this? Maybe you could work on the BRMS we have now to extend it to satisfy your needs. Currently, we are using Ad Astra for our course timetabling and exam scheduling and it would be good if we could replace that with Solver. Thanks for your interest, Len -----Original Message----- From: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Geoffrey De Smet Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 5:09 AM To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org Subject: [rules-users] Re: Drools and BRMS (60,000+ rules) Mark Proctor wrote: Carlsen, Len wrote: Other issues are the performance of the Drools Solver and having thousands of rules compiled, loaded and running. During registration we could have thousands of rules executing concurrently. The rules engine and the BRMS would be services as part of an SOA infrastructure (and an OSGi service environment). Anyone got any experience with Drools in an OSGi environment with respect to class loading issues when compiling rules and facts from other bundles since rules and facts may be in different bundles? Bundle buddy class loading? No but it is something that interests us, please give us your OSGi feedback. Solver is not currently a supported product, its very much R&D alphaware, but I'm sure geoffrey would love your feedback, good to see people are evaluating it. yes, feedback on solver is very welcome :) The good news is, I am now working on an example called Examination, which is an implementation for the itc2007 examination competition: http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/itc2007/examtrack/exam_track_index_files/exameva luation.htm It's based on real-world data. The "starter" dataset contains 7883 students, 607 exams, 54 periods and 7 rooms. There are 5 hard constraints and 7 soft constraints: http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/itc2007/examtrack/exam_track_index_files/exameva luation.htm The bad news is, it's not performing yet, because I need to make a scalable selector implementation, which I am working on. There's an example called lesson schedule (which schedules courses), but that's just a toy example to learn drools-solver, at it just has 2 hard constraints. One piece of advice though: separate the solver part from the rest. Once the solver starts calculating, you 'll only want to have score-related rules in the rulebase. The solver can easily do a million fireAllRules per minute, so every performance loss is blown up. With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users