Re: [rules-users] To accumulate or not to accumulate

** I am not sure I understand what you mean by "random order" but I guess it has to do with my ArrayList result type. What I had in mind is to put all sentences in a TreeSet during the "action" method, and finally issue an ArrayList result object by iterating over the TreeSet and grouping sentences.

My first guess was that such an accumulator might be faster than a construction of windows using rules. However I admit your suggestion is very elegant, and I thank you for that! I am probably still too imperative-minded...

Regards, Bruno. Le 19/08/2011 16:05, Wolfgang Laun a écrit : How would you write "buildwindows", given that its "action" method would be called once for each Sentence, in random order? It's very simple to write a very small set of rules to construct all SentenceWindow facts of size 1 and then to extend them to any desired size, depending on some parameter. 1. Given a Sentence and no Window beginning with it, create a Window of length 1. 2. Given a Window of size n < desiredSize and given a Sentence immediately following it, extend the Window to one of size n+1. 3a. For any Window of desiredSize, inspect it for "closely situated ManualAnnotations". 3b. If ManualAnnotations have been associated with their containing Sentences up-front, you just need to find Windows with more than 1 ManualAnnotation, adding them in the RHS of rule 2 above. -W 2011/8/19 Bruno Freudensprung <bruno.freudensprung(a)temis.com&gt; > > Hi Wolfgang, > > Thanks for your answer. > Sentences are not contiguous (might be some space characters in between) > but manual annotations cannot overlap sentences (interpret "overlap" in > terms of Drools Fusion terminology). > If I had an "inside" operator, do you think the following accumulate > option could be better? > > when > *$result : ArrayList() from accumulate ( $s: Sentence(), > buildwindows($s))* > * $w : SentenceWindows () **from $result* > a1 : ManualAnnotation (this *inside *$w) > a2 : ManualAnnotation (this != a1, this *inside *$w) > then > ... do something with a1 and a2 since they are "close" to each other > end > > Does anyone know something about accumulator parametrization (looking at > the source code it does not seem to be possible, though)? > Maybe a syntax inspired of operator parametrization could be nice: > > $result : ArrayList() from accumulate ( $s: Sentence(), *buildwindows[3]($s) > *) > > Best regards, > > Bruno. > > Le 19/08/2011 13:55, Wolfgang Laun a écrit : > > There are some details that one should consider before deciding on a > particular implementation technique. > > - Are all Sentences contiguous, i.e., s1.end = pred( s2.start ) > - Can a ManualAnnotation start on one Sentence and end in the next or > any further successor? > > As in all problems where constraints depend on an order between facts, > performance is going to be a problem with increasing numbers of Sentences > and ManualAnnotations. > > Your accumulate plan could be a very inefficient approach. Creating O(N*N) > pairs and then looking for an overlapping window is much worse than looking > at each window, for instance. But it depends on the expected numbers for > both. > > -W > > > > 2011/8/19 Bruno Freudensprung <bruno.freudensprung(a)temis.com&gt; > >> Hello, >> >> I am trying to implement rules handling "Sentence", "ManualAnnotation" >> objects (imagine someone highligthing words of the document). Basically >> "Sentence" objects have "start" and "end" positions (fields) into the text >> of a document, and they are Comparable according to their location into the >> document. >> >> I need to write rules using the notion "window of consecutive sentences". >> >> >> Basically I am not very interested by those "SentenceWindow" objects, I >> just need them to define a kind of proximity between "ManualAnnotation" >> objects. >> What I eventually need in the "when" of my rule is something like: >> >> when >> ... maybe something creating the windows >> a1 : ManualAnnotation () >> a2 : ManualAnnotation (this != a1) >> SentenceWindow (this includes a1, this includes a2) >> then >> ... do something with a1 and a2 since they are "close" to each other >> end >> >> As I don't know the "internals" of Drools, I would like to have your >> opinion about what the best "idiom": >> >> - create all SentenceWindow objects and insert them in the working >> memory, then write rules against all the facts (SentenceWindow and >> ManualAnnotation) >> - implement an accumulator that will create a list of >> SentenceWindow object >> >> >> The first option could look like: >> >> rule "Create sentence windows" >> when >> # find 3 consecutive sentences >> s1 : Sentence() >> s2 : Sentence(this > s1) >> s3 : Sentence(this > s2) >> not Sentence(this != s2 && > s1 && < s3) >> then >> SentenceWindow swindow = new SentenceWindow(); >> swindow.setStart(s1.getStart()); >> swindow.setTheend(s3.getEnd()); >> insert(swindow); >> end >> >> ... Then use the first rule "as is". >> >> The accumulator option could look like (I am not really sure the syntax >> is correct) : >> >> when >> *$result : ArrayList() from accumulate ( $s: Sentence(), >> buildwindows($s))* >> a1 : ManualAnnotation () >> a2 : ManualAnnotation (this != a1) >> * SentenceWindows (this includes a1, this includes a2) **from $result >> * >> then >> ... do something with a1 and a2 since they are "close" to each other >> end >> >> Is it possible to decide if one way is best than the other? >> >> And one last question: it is possible to "parametrize" an accumulator (in >> order to provide the number of sentences that should be put in the windows)? >> I mean something like: >> >> when >> $result : ArrayList() from accumulate ( $s: Sentence(), * >> buildwindows(3,* $s)) >> >> >> Thanks in advance for you insights, >> >> Best regards, >> >> Bruno. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing listrules-users@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing listrules-users@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users