Re: [rules-users] Drools flow and BPEL (Drools 5.0.0.M5)

Umesh Wankhede wrote: > > > Mark Proctor wrote: >> Umesh Wankhede wrote: >>> >>> >>> Mark Proctor wrote: >>>> Umesh Wankhede wrote: >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to evaluate various features (rules and workflow) of >>>>> Drools 5.0. What I understand from docs (drools-docs-flow.pdf - >>>>> page 5) is that the Drools flow engine is based on generic process >>>>> engine that allows the execution of different process languages >>>>> like RuleFlow, BPEL, OSWorkflow, etc. Although I am able to do PoC >>>>> (Proof of Concept) with RuleFlow, there isn't any >>>>> documentation/samples available for using BPEL as process >>>>> language. Also I don't find any more information on blogs, etc. >>>>> If anyone has done something similar, please let me know, or any >>>>> pointers would help. >>>> There is no BPEL product, Drools COULD do BPEL, but we haven't made >>>> it do so yet. It is more likely we would look to integrate an >>>> existing BPEL product like ODE, as the execution engine is the easy >>>> bit, it's all the xml manipulations that are time consuming. >>> So that means I would have to go with jBPM for BPEL support (and >>> losing the advantage of tight rule engine integration provided in >>> Drools). How far would be the BPEL support in Drools in the roadmap? >> If you are going to use BPEL I would recommend ODE, jBPM BPEL is not >> BPEL 2.0, but 1.0, which is very limited. ODE is likely to be the >> BPEL engine we integrated into Drools. >> >> More importantly though, have a good think on why it is you are using >> BPEL, as in reality it's generally too low level for end users to use >> effectively. > The primary language would be RuleFlow or jPDL, but we are also > looking at BPEL support (product requirements driven). So we have to > make a choice between jBPM or Drools 5.0. The latter option looks > more suitable for our requirement which provides tightly integrated > rule support, but lack of BPEL support currently is making the > decision tougher. If you are going to choose a BPEL product, make sure you choose one that supports BPEL 2.0, or you'll be shooting yourself in the foot, Apache ODE is the more complete BPEL 2.0 engine. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Umesh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Legal Notice: This transmission, including any attachments, is >>>>> confidential, proprietary, and may be privileged. It is intended >>>>> solely for >>>>> the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you >>>>> have received this transmission in error and you are hereby >>>>> advised that any >>>>> review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this >>>>> transmission, or any of the information included therein, is >>>>> unauthorized and strictly >>>>> prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, >>>>> please immediately notify the sender by reply and permanently >>>>> delete all copies of >>>>> this transmission and its attachments >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> rules-users mailing list >>>>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> rules-users mailing list >>>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users