Re: [rules-users] FW: Basic rules question

Monday, 9 May 2011

Got it to work :)  Actually I was inserting the RAM facts in a different "knowledge
session" .. which was causing the "collect" to return no record .. anyways.
Thanks for you help :)

Regards,

Abhay Chaware
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Yes :)
2011/5/9 Abhay B. Chaware
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Mike,

What I meant was, There are say 10 objects of RAM in memory whose type is DDR.  Now my
"Product" object has a member variable named "compatibleRAMs", and I
would like to set an arraylist containing these 10 objects to the
"compatibleRAMs" variable of "Product" object in memory.

I am reading about the "collect" which can be used to create collections from
fact objects in memory.   Something like.

When
            $prod : Product (type=='laptop')
$compatibleRAMs : ArrayList() from collect (RAM (type == 'DDR'))
Then
            $prod.setCompatibleRAMs($compatibleRAMs);

Am I on the right track ?

-abhay

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Abhay,

Do you need a list?

You can assign RAM to COMPUTERS with this:-

when
    $c : Computer( $type : type )
    $r : RAM( compatibleWith == $type )
then
   $c.addRAM( $r );
end

This would add all RAM (in Working Memory) compatible with COMPUTER to computer.

You could use a list of RAM as a Fact in WM and change your rule to use that:-

when
    $l : MyList( )
    $c : Computer( $type : type )
    $r : RAM( compatibleWith == $type ) from $l
then
    $c.addRAM( $r );
end

Or you can define a rule to construct the list too:-

when
    $l : MyList( $t : typeRAM )
    RAM( $c : $t )
then
    $l.add( $r )
end

I assume you'd need to differentiate different lists for different types; so I have
shown use of "MyList" which could subclass ArrayList and have a "Type of
RAM" attribute. Drools doesn't "do" generics.

With kind regards,

Mike
2011/5/9 Abhay B. Chaware
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Wendy,

Thanks for helping me out so far.

I have another question. What if I have all my "RAM" objects inserted into
working memory.   How should I write my rule's "when" portion to get a
collection of all the RAM objects matching type "DDR" ?  In other words, can I
get collection of facts assigned to a variable and use it in the "then" part ?

Thanks
Abhay

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Q2:
  So the rule would be something like:

rule "RAM type"
  when
     $product: Product(type == "laptop");
 then
     //you are looking for the best way to set valid RAM types in the then part of the
rule?
    $product.setRamType("DDR");
    //or
   $product.setValidRamOptions( getValidRamOptions("DDR"));
 end

where getValidRamOptions would be a custom function included through 'import
function' so you can then load the choices from some where else.  Or if RamOptions
were an object in memory you could have a rule like:

rule "RAM type"
  when
     $product: Product(type == "laptop");
     $ramOptions: RAMOptions(type == "DDR");

 then
   $product.setValidRamOptions( $ramOptions.getList());
 end

Wendy

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Regards,

Abhay Chaware
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Abhay,
  Q1:  I think that this will depend on how many different products you have.  If there is
a small number it is more straight forward to have a rule for each one (so the 2nd
option).  This allows all you logic to be in one place.  If there are a large number of
products and writing a rule for each one is intractable you probably would want to look
into some generalizations of the rules.  Is that helpful?

  Q2: I'm not quite sure what you are getting at in Q2.  Are you trying to write
validation rules or rules that are modifying the facts?

Wendy
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Subject: [rules-users] Basic rules question
Hi

I am a newbie to rule based applications and trying to get the concept of rules. I have
couple of questions about rules to start with, not specifically about Drools though.

Q1 - Should rules be data/model specific or can/should they be generic or both
==========================================================
e.g.
If selected product "TYPE" is "laptop", then category "RAM"
should have all "DDR" type items compatible ( selecting items matching certain
property )
OR
If selected product is "IBM T42", then category "RAM" should have
"512MB DDR" , "1024MB DDR", "2048MB DDR"  compatible. (
assigning individual items in rules )
OR
Combination of both

Q2 - How should be the data modeled in above case
==========================================================
e.g.
in product master, each item ( e.g. T40, T42 ) should have a "TYPE" ( e.g.
desktop or laptop ) , all items in category "RAM" should have a "TYPE"
( e.g. DDR ) and then control the assignment of RAM options to the PRODUCT through Rule
using "DDR" type ?
OR
in product master, each item ( e.g. T40, T42 ) should have a "TYPE" ( e.g.
desktop or laptop ) , all items in category "RAM"  should have a
"compatibleProduct" column ( e.g. desktop or laptop ) and control the assignment
of RAM to PRODUCT through "dynamic" rules by selecting all the RAMs by passing
the "TYPE" of the product to the database handler.

Am I making my point clear ?

Thanks
Abhay

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