2:08 a.m.
Hello,
At the present time, I am evaluating Drools vs OPSJ.
Before I started, I had a look at the following tests:
http://blogs.illation.com.au/2009/09/waltz-benchmark-performance-opsj-vs-.... Based on
these tests, I was expecting better performances from OPSJ over Drools regarding the rule
firing time.
However, I obtained opposite results on a basic test. It consists in a sort of "join
clause": I have a few products and many potentiel prices (10^4) in the knowledge
session. The aim is to "match" the appropriate prices to each products.
My question are the followings:
- Does someone obtained similar results ?
- Are there situations where Drools outperforms OPSJ ? (apparently yes).
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Benoît
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8:19 a.m.
Hey Benoit,
That is why we always tell people to ignore the classic benchmarks
(manners, waltz, etc) when comparing rules engines and use their own use
cases to test. There are so many different optimizations implemented in
modern rules engines that looking at one single aspect of them through an
academic benchmark "lens" will never give you the whole picture, an so what
you need is your own use case. That is also why it is so hard to get vendors
to agree on new benchmarks, because each of them will try to come up with a
benchmark that emphasizes his strengths. Although these academic benchmarks
were helpful in the past, I believe nowadays they don't help anyone anymore.
So, you did the right thing. Look at your use case, test the engines and
find what is best for you. You are not the only one finding such results for
real use cases.
Also, performance is just one variable in the equation. Most rules
engines will be fast enough for your needs, but what about rules authoring?
declarative power? integration with your architecture? maintenance? support?
cost?
Good luck and obviously count on us to help you with any difficulty you
face.
Edson
2010/4/8 Bertrand Grottier <b_grottier(a)hotmail.com>
Hello,
At the present time, I am evaluating Drools vs OPSJ.
Before I started, I had a look at the following tests:
http://blogs.illation.com.au/2009/09/waltz-benchmark-performance-opsj-vs-....
Based on these tests, I was expecting better performances from OPSJ over
Drools regarding the rule firing time.
However, I obtained opposite results on a basic test. It consists in a sort
of "join clause": I have a few products and many potentiel prices (10^4) in
the knowledge session. The aim is to "match" the appropriate prices to each
products.
My question are the followings:
- Does someone obtained similar results ?
- Are there situations where Drools outperforms OPSJ ? (apparently yes).
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Benoît
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10:56 a.m.
What version of drools did you use? Did you use a version with the "true
modify" feature?
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Subject: [rules-users] Drools vs OPSJ
To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:08 AM
Hello,
At the present time, I am evaluating Drools vs OPSJ.
Before I started, I had a look at the following tests:
http://blogs.illation.com.au/2009/09/waltz-benchmark-performance-opsj-vs-.... Based on
these tests, I was expecting better performances from OPSJ over Drools regarding the rule
firing time.
However, I obtained opposite results on a basic test. It consists in a sort of "join
clause": I have a few products and many potentiel prices (10^4) in the knowledge
session. The aim is to "match" the appropriate prices to each products.
My question are the followings:
- Does someone obtained similar results ?
- Are there situations where Drools outperforms OPSJ ? (apparently yes).
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Benoît
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:56:35 -0700
From: greg_barton(a)yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [rules-users] Drools vs OPSJ
What version of drools did you use?
Drools 5.0.1.
Did you use a version with the "true modify" feature?
I feel sorry but I do not understand your question.
I did not make any particular tuning.
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From: Bertrand Grottier <b_grottier(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: [rules-users] Drools vs OPSJ
To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:08 AM
Hello,
At the present time, I am evaluating Drools vs OPSJ.
Before I started, I had a look at the following tests:
http://blogs.illation.com.au/2009/09/waltz-benchmark-performance-opsj-vs-.... Based on
these tests, I was expecting better performances from OPSJ over Drools regarding the rule
firing time.
However, I obtained opposite results on a basic test. It consists in a sort of "join
clause": I have a few products and many potentiel prices (10^4) in the knowledge
session. The aim is to "match" the appropriate prices to each products.
My question are the followings:
- Does someone obtained similar results ?
- Are there situations where Drools outperforms OPSJ ? (apparently yes).
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Benoît
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2:35 a.m.
He means the latest of the latest version, released last week or so. Not the
one you're using, apparently.
2010/4/9 Bertrand Grottier <b_grottier(a)hotmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 08:56:35 -0700
From: greg_barton(a)yahoo.com
To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Drools vs OPSJ
>What version of drools did you use?
Drools 5.0.1.
>Did you use a version with the "true modify" feature?
I feel sorry but I do not understand your question.
I did not make any particular tuning.
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From: Bertrand Grottier <b_grottier(a)hotmail.com>
Subject: [rules-users] Drools vs OPSJ
To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 2:08 AM
Hello,
At the present time, I am evaluating Drools vs OPSJ.
Before I started, I had a look at the following tests:
http://blogs.illation.com.au/2009/09/waltz-benchmark-performance-opsj-vs-....
Based on these tests, I was expecting better performances from OPSJ over
Drools regarding the rule firing time.
However, I obtained opposite results on a basic test. It consists in a sort
of "join clause": I have a few products and many potentiel prices (10^4) in
the knowledge session. The aim is to "match" the appropriate prices to each
products.
My question are the followings:
- Does someone obtained similar results ?
- Are there situations where Drools outperforms OPSJ ? (apparently yes).
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Benoît
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