Hi Mike, I watched your blog/video about the BRL fragment functionality in decision tables (http://blog.athico.com/2012/01/guided-decision-table-supports-brl.html) a few weeks back. It sounds like it provides some of the template capabilities I remember from working with Fico Blaze Adviser a little while back. I was wondering why I was struggling to reproduce it, but I guess I need to wait for 5.4 to go live as I don't think using a beta version would be a great idea here! I think that for now I'll opt for multiple rules, as there *should* not be too many. With some sensible use of categories and work items, hopefully I can keep the interface clean enough for now. However I reckon I'll have a go at running up a 5.4.0.beta2 environment to try this out. I'd like to see whether I can take advantage of it to improve things ready for an update when things go final. Thanks for the pointers. Steve On Jan 31, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Michael Anstis <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hi, Starting from 5.4.0.beta2 you can use BRL fragments in decision tables. This will allow you to define a column like this:- $c : Cucumber() Cucumber( this == $c, numberOfWormHoles > {@holes} ) Cucumber( this == $c, curvaturePerLengthUnit > {@curvature} ) Cucumber( this == $c, hue < {@minHue} || > {@maxHue} ) You will then be presented with columns for each of the "variables" ({@XXX} in the above). If you do not specify *all* values for a pattern the pattern will not be included in the generated rules. For example:- @holes=0, @curvature=<empty>, @minHue=90, @maxHue=150 would generate:- $c : Cucumber() Cucumber( this == $c, numberOfWormHoles > 0 ) Cucumber( this == $c, hue < 90 || > 150 ) You could equally define multiple BRL fragment columns like this:- Column 1 - $c : Cucumber() Column 2 - Cucumber( this == $c, numberOfWormHoles > {@holes} ) Column 3 - Cucumber( this == $c, curvaturePerLengthUnit > {@curvature} ) Column 4 - Cucumber( this == $c, hue < {@minHue} || > {@maxHue} ) Resulting in the same operation. The || requirement makes using a decision table pre-5.4.0.beta2 impossible, however if you could re-think your logic to use &&'s it is possible but messier. With kind regards, Mike 2012/1/30 Stephen Masters <stephen.masters(a)me.com&gt; Hi folks, I'm trying to create a DSL (to drive a Guvnor guided editor), for which a rule could be written as: Given a cucumber - containing one or more worm holes - or with a curvature greater than 10mm per 10 cm length - or with a hue of less than 90 degrees - or with a hue of greater than 150 degrees Do not put that cucumber on the supermarket shelf (note: I'm actually developing a banking risk management system looking at different types of counterparty ratings, rather than a fruit&veg quality control system, but hopefully the above example is more readable!) Is there a decent metaphor that could be used by a business user in Guvnor to manage such rules in one place? Or is it likely to be necessary to create multiple rules? As far as I understand, every condition added to a rule through such DSLRs adds itself to the filter. i.e. They are AND rather than OR. The other metaphor I could think of is the decision table as a neat interface for generating multiple rules, but that seems to be geared towards creating rules based on multiple values of a single attribute rather than multiple conditions. I'm trying to keep the user interface as simple as possible, so any thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers, Steve _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users