8:08 p.m.
Hi,
I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me how I
can execute more than one specific rule at the same time? Please help
Thanks
Benson
4:40 a.m.
Hi Benson,
What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules in parallel?
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>wrote:
Hi,
I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me how I
can execute more than one specific rule at the same time? Please help
Thanks
Benson
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8:10 a.m.
Hi Leonardo,
Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want in details.
e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the frontend.
Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out of 1000
rules are related to this variable A, like
rule 'check_a_empty'
when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
rule 'A_Range_0_100'
when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
then return a message 'A must be within the range between 0 and 100'
rule 'check_A_Character'
when ((A is not an integer))
return a message 'A must be an integer'
If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time, how to
write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
Please advise
Thank you very much
Benson
2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
Hi Benson,
What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules in parallel?
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me how I
> can execute more than one specific rule at the same time? Please help
>
>
> Thanks
> Benson
> _______________________________________________
> rules-users mailing list
> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
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8:19 a.m.
If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then if you
insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless I'm missing
something else that you don't mention :)
Greetings.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Leonardo,
Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want in details.
e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the frontend.
Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out of 1000
rules are related to this variable A, like
rule 'check_a_empty'
when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
rule 'A_Range_0_100'
when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
then return a message 'A must be within the range between 0 and 100'
rule 'check_A_Character'
when ((A is not an integer))
return a message 'A must be an integer'
If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time, how to
write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
Please advise
Thank you very much
Benson
2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
> Hi Benson,
>
> What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules in
parallel?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me how I
>> can execute more than one specific rule at the same time? Please help
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Benson
>> _______________________________________________
>> rules-users mailing list
>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
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>
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8:29 a.m.
Thanks Mauricio,
What I want is to only execute these 3 rules simultaneously out of
1000 rules in the rulebase. Can you advise programmatically how to
achieve?
Thanks
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then if
you
insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless I'm missing
something else that you don't mention :)
Greetings.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Leonardo,
>
> Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want in details.
>
> e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
>
> The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the frontend.
> Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out of 1000
> rules are related to this variable A, like
>
> rule 'check_a_empty'
> when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
>
> then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
>
> rule 'A_Range_0_100'
> when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
>
> then return a message 'A must be within the range between 0 and 100'
>
> rule 'check_A_Character'
> when ((A is not an integer))
>
> return a message 'A must be an integer'
>
>
> If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time, how to
> write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
>
> Please advise
>
>
> Thank you very much
> Benson
>
> 2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
> > Hi Benson,
> >
> > What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules in
> > parallel?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me how I
> >> can execute more than one specific rule at the same time? Please help
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Benson
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > rules-users mailing list
> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> rules-users mailing list
> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
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8:35 a.m.
but you have another 997 rules about the A() Fact? or the other rules are
about another facts??
Greetings.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks Mauricio,
What I want is to only execute these 3 rules simultaneously out of
1000 rules in the rulebase. Can you advise programmatically how to
achieve?
Thanks
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then if you
> insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
> There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless I'm missing
> something else that you don't mention :)
> Greetings.
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leonardo,
>>
>> Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want in
details.
>>
>> e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
>>
>> The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the frontend.
>> Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out of 1000
>> rules are related to this variable A, like
>>
>> rule 'check_a_empty'
>> when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
>>
>> then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
>>
>> rule 'A_Range_0_100'
>> when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
>>
>> then return a message 'A must be within the range between 0 and 100'
>>
>> rule 'check_A_Character'
>> when ((A is not an integer))
>>
>> return a message 'A must be an integer'
>>
>>
>> If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time, how to
>> write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
>>
>> Please advise
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much
>> Benson
>>
>> 2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
>> > Hi Benson,
>> >
>> > What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules in
>> > parallel?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com
>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me how I
>> >> can execute more than one specific rule at the same time? Please
help
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Benson
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > rules-users mailing list
>> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> rules-users mailing list
>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>
>
>
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8:38 a.m.
The other 997 rules are for another Fact. Sorry for my misleading you.
Benson
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
but you have another 997 rules about the A() Fact? or the other rules
are
about another facts??
Greetings.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Thanks Mauricio,
>
> What I want is to only execute these 3 rules simultaneously out of
> 1000 rules in the rulebase. Can you advise programmatically how to
> achieve?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then if you
> > insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
> > There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless I'm missing
> > something else that you don't mention :)
> > Greetings.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Leonardo,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want in
> >> details.
> >>
> >> e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
> >>
> >> The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the frontend.
> >> Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out of 1000
> >> rules are related to this variable A, like
> >>
> >> rule 'check_a_empty'
> >> when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
> >>
> >> then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
> >>
> >> rule 'A_Range_0_100'
> >> when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
> >>
> >> then return a message 'A must be within the range between 0 and
100'
> >>
> >> rule 'check_A_Character'
> >> when ((A is not an integer))
> >>
> >> return a message 'A must be an integer'
> >>
> >>
> >> If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time, how to
> >> write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
> >>
> >> Please advise
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank you very much
> >> Benson
> >>
> >> 2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
> >> > Hi Benson,
> >> >
> >> > What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules in
> >> > parallel?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung
> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me how
I
> >> >> can execute more than one specific rule at the same time? Please
> >> >> help
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> Benson
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > rules-users mailing list
> >> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >
> >
> >
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> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
> >
> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
> >
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8:39 a.m.
so you don't need to worry about them to fire...
Drools will evaluate only the meaningful rules for the fact A(). There is no
need for grouping in your situation.
Are you having a problem with you other rules and that's why are you trying
to separate them?
Greetings.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>wrote:
The other 997 rules are for another Fact. Sorry for my misleading
you.
Benson
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> but you have another 997 rules about the A() Fact? or the other rules are
> about another facts??
> Greetings.
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mauricio,
>>
>> What I want is to only execute these 3 rules simultaneously out of
>> 1000 rules in the rulebase. Can you advise programmatically how to
>> achieve?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then if
you
>> > insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
>> > There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless I'm
missing
>> > something else that you don't mention :)
>> > Greetings.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung <
benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Leonardo,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want in
>> >> details.
>> >>
>> >> e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
>> >>
>> >> The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the frontend.
>> >> Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out of
1000
>> >> rules are related to this variable A, like
>> >>
>> >> rule 'check_a_empty'
>> >> when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
>> >>
>> >> then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
>> >>
>> >> rule 'A_Range_0_100'
>> >> when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
>> >>
>> >> then return a message 'A must be within the range between 0 and
100'
>> >>
>> >> rule 'check_A_Character'
>> >> when ((A is not an integer))
>> >>
>> >> return a message 'A must be an integer'
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time, how to
>> >> write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
>> >>
>> >> Please advise
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thank you very much
>> >> Benson
>> >>
>> >> 2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
>> >> > Hi Benson,
>> >> >
>> >> > What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules in
>> >> > parallel?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung
>> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me
how
I
>> >> >> can execute more than one specific rule at the same time?
Please
>> >> >> help
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Benson
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > rules-users mailing list
>> >> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>> >
>> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>> >
>
>
>
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>
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9:35 a.m.
I see what you mean. You are right, that means when the fact A is
inserted , the rule engine will come up an agenda which is A()
related, right?
OK, let's take in another way. If A is one of a variable of a Fact
say X(), then only the 3 rules evaluate the A variable of the Fact X()
in the 1000 rules of rulebase. How can I only execute the 3 rules
programmatically?
In fact, the problem comes from the legacy window program. When we
develop the old window program, we can add lots of field validation of
the field by right clicking the edit box, right? Right now, we need
to migrate to java-based solution and use the BRMS to store those
validation rules. The above 3 rules were put in the validation rules
of the edit field of the window program, and now I put these 3 rules
into the BRMS and revamp the window program frontend to whatever
html/GWT/ZK frontend now.
If cannot get what I mean, please tell me and I try to describe again.
Thank you very much and thanks for your patience.
Benson
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com> wrote:
so you don't need to worry about them to fire...
Drools will evaluate only the meaningful rules for the fact A(). There is no
need for grouping in your situation.
Are you having a problem with you other rules and that's why are you trying
to separate them?
Greetings.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> The other 997 rules are for another Fact. Sorry for my misleading you.
>
>
> Benson
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > but you have another 997 rules about the A() Fact? or the other rules
> > are
> > about another facts??
> > Greetings.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Mauricio,
> >>
> >> What I want is to only execute these 3 rules simultaneously out of
> >> 1000 rules in the rulebase. Can you advise programmatically how to
> >> achieve?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mauricio Salatino
<salaboy(a)gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then if
> >> > you
> >> > insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
> >> > There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless I'm
> >> > missing
> >> > something else that you don't mention :)
> >> > Greetings.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung
> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Leonardo,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want in
> >> >> details.
> >> >>
> >> >> e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
> >> >>
> >> >> The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the frontend.
> >> >> Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out of
> >> >> 1000
> >> >> rules are related to this variable A, like
> >> >>
> >> >> rule 'check_a_empty'
> >> >> when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
> >> >>
> >> >> then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
> >> >>
> >> >> rule 'A_Range_0_100'
> >> >> when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
> >> >>
> >> >> then return a message 'A must be within the range between 0 and
100'
> >> >>
> >> >> rule 'check_A_Character'
> >> >> when ((A is not an integer))
> >> >>
> >> >> return a message 'A must be an integer'
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time, how
> >> >> to
> >> >> write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
> >> >>
> >> >> Please advise
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you very much
> >> >> Benson
> >> >>
> >> >> 2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
> >> >> > Hi Benson,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules
in
> >> >> > parallel?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung
> >> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell
me how
> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> can execute more than one specific rule at the same time?
Please
> >> >> >> help
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >> Benson
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > rules-users mailing list
> >> >> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> rules-users mailing list
> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
> >> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
> >> >
> >> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
> >> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
> >
> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
> >
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9:47 a.m.
I think I understand your situation,
I strongly recommned you to take a look at the docs to see the difference
between facts and its attributes and how and when the engine evaluates them.
If you really want to use a mechanism to be able to fire different rules in
different moments you can use the agenda-groups and the setFocus() method.
You can find those topics in the docs as well.
Greetings.
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>wrote:
I see what you mean. You are right, that means when the fact A is
inserted , the rule engine will come up an agenda which is A()
related, right?
OK, let's take in another way. If A is one of a variable of a Fact
say X(), then only the 3 rules evaluate the A variable of the Fact X()
in the 1000 rules of rulebase. How can I only execute the 3 rules
programmatically?
In fact, the problem comes from the legacy window program. When we
develop the old window program, we can add lots of field validation of
the field by right clicking the edit box, right? Right now, we need
to migrate to java-based solution and use the BRMS to store those
validation rules. The above 3 rules were put in the validation rules
of the edit field of the window program, and now I put these 3 rules
into the BRMS and revamp the window program frontend to whatever
html/GWT/ZK frontend now.
If cannot get what I mean, please tell me and I try to describe again.
Thank you very much and thanks for your patience.
Benson
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> so you don't need to worry about them to fire...
> Drools will evaluate only the meaningful rules for the fact A(). There is
no
> need for grouping in your situation.
> Are you having a problem with you other rules and that's why are you
trying
> to separate them?
> Greetings.
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The other 997 rules are for another Fact. Sorry for my misleading you.
>>
>>
>> Benson
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > but you have another 997 rules about the A() Fact? or the other rules
>> > are
>> > about another facts??
>> > Greetings.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Benson Fung <
benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Mauricio,
>> >>
>> >> What I want is to only execute these 3 rules simultaneously out of
>> >> 1000 rules in the rulebase. Can you advise programmatically how to
>> >> achieve?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mauricio Salatino <
salaboy(a)gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then
if
>> >> > you
>> >> > insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
>> >> > There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless
I'm
>> >> > missing
>> >> > something else that you don't mention :)
>> >> > Greetings.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung
>> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Leonardo,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want
in
>> >> >> details.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the
frontend.
>> >> >> Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out
of
>> >> >> 1000
>> >> >> rules are related to this variable A, like
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'check_a_empty'
>> >> >> when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'A_Range_0_100'
>> >> >> when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> then return a message 'A must be within the range between
0 and
100'
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'check_A_Character'
>> >> >> when ((A is not an integer))
>> >> >>
>> >> >> return a message 'A must be an integer'
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time,
how
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please advise
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you very much
>> >> >> Benson
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
>> >> >> > Hi Benson,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute
rules
in
>> >> >> > parallel?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung
>> >> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you
tell me
how
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> can execute more than one specific rule at the same
time?
Please
>> >> >> >> help
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> >> Benson
>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
>> >> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>> >> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>> >> >
>> >> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
>> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>> >
>> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>> >
>
>
>
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> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>
> - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>
--
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9:47 a.m.
Why do you need to worry about only executing rules that are applicable to
X.A?
The Rules Engine is designed to narrow matches to only those rules that are
applicable and cause the appropriate activations.
You can accomplish what you need with agenda-groups; your code would know
only X() needs validating and execute the activations on agenda-group that
contains rules for validating X().
However the logic you write to determine which agenda-group needs to be
activated is already part of the Rules Engine: When you insert X() into WM
only rules with X() as a pattern are matched.
My advice would be to have all rules in WM at once and not worry about which
should be executed. Insert your Facts that need validating and call
fireAllRules(); then retrieve your validation messages.
With kind regards,
Mike
On 25 March 2011 14:35, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I see what you mean. You are right, that means when the fact A is
inserted , the rule engine will come up an agenda which is A()
related, right?
OK, let's take in another way. If A is one of a variable of a Fact
say X(), then only the 3 rules evaluate the A variable of the Fact X()
in the 1000 rules of rulebase. How can I only execute the 3 rules
programmatically?
In fact, the problem comes from the legacy window program. When we
develop the old window program, we can add lots of field validation of
the field by right clicking the edit box, right? Right now, we need
to migrate to java-based solution and use the BRMS to store those
validation rules. The above 3 rules were put in the validation rules
of the edit field of the window program, and now I put these 3 rules
into the BRMS and revamp the window program frontend to whatever
html/GWT/ZK frontend now.
If cannot get what I mean, please tell me and I try to describe again.
Thank you very much and thanks for your patience.
Benson
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> so you don't need to worry about them to fire...
> Drools will evaluate only the meaningful rules for the fact A(). There is
no
> need for grouping in your situation.
> Are you having a problem with you other rules and that's why are you
trying
> to separate them?
> Greetings.
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The other 997 rules are for another Fact. Sorry for my misleading you.
>>
>>
>> Benson
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > but you have another 997 rules about the A() Fact? or the other rules
>> > are
>> > about another facts??
>> > Greetings.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Benson Fung <
benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Mauricio,
>> >>
>> >> What I want is to only execute these 3 rules simultaneously out of
>> >> 1000 rules in the rulebase. Can you advise programmatically how to
>> >> achieve?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mauricio Salatino <
salaboy(a)gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then
if
>> >> > you
>> >> > insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
>> >> > There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless
I'm
>> >> > missing
>> >> > something else that you don't mention :)
>> >> > Greetings.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung
>> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Leonardo,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want
in
>> >> >> details.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the
frontend.
>> >> >> Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out
of
>> >> >> 1000
>> >> >> rules are related to this variable A, like
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'check_a_empty'
>> >> >> when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'A_Range_0_100'
>> >> >> when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> then return a message 'A must be within the range between
0 and
100'
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'check_A_Character'
>> >> >> when ((A is not an integer))
>> >> >>
>> >> >> return a message 'A must be an integer'
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time,
how
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please advise
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you very much
>> >> >> Benson
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
>> >> >> > Hi Benson,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute
rules
in
>> >> >> > parallel?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung
>> >> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you
tell me
how
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> can execute more than one specific rule at the same
time?
Please
>> >> >> >> help
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> >> Benson
>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
>> >> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>> >> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>> >> >
>> >> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
>> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>> >
>> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>> >
>
>
>
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> - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
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9:48 a.m.
A cannot be a fact and a variable at the same time. If you have, say,
class Box { String input;... }
as a Java class, you'll have to check that input != null and != "" before
you check that it contains characters according to a number. (This
could be done in a single rule.)
But you can't simply the string against numeric limits; you'll have to
do a conversion into another field or, preferably, into the application
object.
rule checkInput
when
Box( $inp: input == null || == "" || not matches "\\d+" )
then
...error...
end
rule convert
when
Box( $inp: input != null && != "" && matches
"\\d+" )
then
insert( new Data( Integer.valueOf( $inp ) ) );
end
rule checkRange
when
Data( value < 0 || value > 100 )
then
... error ...
end
And, most certainly, you don't want to have this executed at the same time.
-W
On 25 March 2011 15:35, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I see what you mean. You are right, that means when the fact A is
inserted , the rule engine will come up an agenda which is A()
related, right?
OK, let's take in another way. If A is one of a variable of a Fact
say X(), then only the 3 rules evaluate the A variable of the Fact X()
in the 1000 rules of rulebase. How can I only execute the 3 rules
programmatically?
In fact, the problem comes from the legacy window program. When we
develop the old window program, we can add lots of field validation of
the field by right clicking the edit box, right? Right now, we need
to migrate to java-based solution and use the BRMS to store those
validation rules. The above 3 rules were put in the validation rules
of the edit field of the window program, and now I put these 3 rules
into the BRMS and revamp the window program frontend to whatever
html/GWT/ZK frontend now.
If cannot get what I mean, please tell me and I try to describe again.
Thank you very much and thanks for your patience.
Benson
On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> so you don't need to worry about them to fire...
> Drools will evaluate only the meaningful rules for the fact A(). There is
no
> need for grouping in your situation.
> Are you having a problem with you other rules and that's why are you
trying
> to separate them?
> Greetings.
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> The other 997 rules are for another Fact. Sorry for my misleading you.
>>
>>
>> Benson
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > but you have another 997 rules about the A() Fact? or the other rules
>> > are
>> > about another facts??
>> > Greetings.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Benson Fung <
benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Mauricio,
>> >>
>> >> What I want is to only execute these 3 rules simultaneously out of
>> >> 1000 rules in the rulebase. Can you advise programmatically how to
>> >> achieve?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Mauricio Salatino <
salaboy(a)gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > If you include all that rules inside a knowledge session and then
if
>> >> > you
>> >> > insert A, all the rules will be evaluated.
>> >> > There is no need to create an agenda group for that, unless
I'm
>> >> > missing
>> >> > something else that you don't mention :)
>> >> > Greetings.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Benson Fung
>> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Leonardo,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want
in
>> >> >> details.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the
frontend.
>> >> >> Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out
of
>> >> >> 1000
>> >> >> rules are related to this variable A, like
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'check_a_empty'
>> >> >> when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'A_Range_0_100'
>> >> >> when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
>> >> >>
>> >> >> then return a message 'A must be within the range between
0 and
100'
>> >> >>
>> >> >> rule 'check_A_Character'
>> >> >> when ((A is not an integer))
>> >> >>
>> >> >> return a message 'A must be an integer'
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time,
how
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please advise
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you very much
>> >> >> Benson
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
>> >> >> > Hi Benson,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute
rules
in
>> >> >> > parallel?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung
>> >> >> > <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you
tell me
how
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> can execute more than one specific rule at the same
time?
Please
>> >> >> >> help
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> >> Benson
>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> > rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> rules-users mailing list
>> >> >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
>> >> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>> >> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>> >> >
>> >> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
>> > - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>> > - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>> >
>> > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>> >
>
>
>
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> - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
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>
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>
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8:20 a.m.
You won't need to worry.
As the Fact A is inserted into Working Memory it is evaluated against all
rules.
Rules that match (i.e. your 3 of 1000) create activations on the Agenda that
are executed when you call fireAllRules.
Your "return" statements are possibly causing confusion; if your consequents
add validation errors to a list they can all be retrieved.
Cheers,
Mike
On 25 March 2011 13:10, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Leonardo,
Thanks for your patience. Let me try to describe what I want in details.
e.g. There is a variable A with 3 rules in BRMS.
The variable A is input by a user via an edit box at the frontend.
Now there are 1000 rules in the BRMS rulebase. However, 3 out of 1000
rules are related to this variable A, like
rule 'check_a_empty'
when (( A == null) || (A == "") )
then return a message 'A cannot be empty'
rule 'A_Range_0_100'
when ((A < 0 ) || (A > 100) )
then return a message 'A must be within the range between 0 and 100'
rule 'check_A_Character'
when ((A is not an integer))
return a message 'A must be an integer'
If I would like to execute the above 3 rules at the same time, how to
write/develop the AgendaFilter class?
Please advise
Thank you very much
Benson
2011/3/25 Leonardo Gomes <leonardo.f.gomes(a)gmail.com>:
> Hi Benson,
>
> What exactly do you want to achieve? You want to execute rules in
parallel?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Benson Fung <benson.redhat(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have setup about 10 rules in the rulebase. Can you tell me how I
>> can execute more than one specific rule at the same time? Please help
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Benson
>> _______________________________________________
>> rules-users mailing list
>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> rules-users mailing list
> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>
>
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