If you are not planning to use Guvnor to author your rules, there is no need to store them in BRL format. You can store your rules as 'technical rules' directly. Best Regards, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Esteban Aliverti - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:10 PM, benq2188 <

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As far as I know, there is no API for DRL creation. Best Regards, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Esteban Aliverti - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM, benq2188 <bengisaglam(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Esteban thanks for the quick reply, so in this case my question is, which > object is the key in the API to create .drl rule ? Should I create > RuleModel? > > Also how can I store that .drl via POST method of the REST? > > Regards, > > Bengi. > > > Esteban wrote > > If you are not planning to use Guvnor to author your rules, there is no > > need to store them in BRL format. You can store your rules as 'technical > > rules' directly. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > > > Esteban Aliverti > > - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:10 PM, benq2188 &lt; > > > bengisaglam@ > > > &gt; wrote: > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I would like to implement an Expert System which I can have my own UI > to > >> generate user defined rules, and I am planning to use REST API to > >> insert/update/delete the rules,which are in the guvnor repository. > Inside > >> the guvnor, I would like to store my rules in .drl format. So I was > >> wondering two thing: > >> > >> - Is that possible to create a brl file in XStream xml format as output > >> of > >> the UI, and store it in the repository as .drl format?. (I know the > >> conversion from .brl to .drl is possible by using BRDRLPersistance > >> object.) > >> If it is possible then which object is the key point to create it from > >> the > >> "package org.drools.ide.common.client.modeldriven.brl"? > >> > >> -Another problem, by using REST API I can update and retrieve an asset > in > >> text/plain format, however I could not succeed to insert new asset into > >> repository by using POST method. So how can I insert a new .drl rule > into > >> repository via REST. > >> > >> I will appreciate if you have some sample code for any of them and will > >> be > >> greatful for any help, > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Bengi. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > >> > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... > >> Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> rules-users mailing list > >> > > > rules-users@.jboss > > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rules-users mailing list > > > rules-users@.jboss > > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Thanks for the reply, It seems with this way I need to create my own rule parser to have "DRL" type asset since the rules will be created by users. My aim is to facilitate from Guvnor api as much as I can, instead of creating my parser I though that there might be some class which helps to create rules. For now I havent decided yet between "BRL" or "DRL" type asset to create rules, from customized UI the output should be the rule itself and I need to POST it by using REST API. So in this point what do you suggest? Do you think org.drools.ide.common.client.modeldriven.brl.RuleModel class may an option to represent rules which are created by users?(and after that persisting them using BRDRLPersistance class to store in guvnor repository via REST) or instead, could it be an option to create "BRL" type asset from my UI using guvnor API? Please Regards, Bengi. manstis wrote > DRL assets in Guvnor are stored as plain text. > > You should be able to use the REST API to create a new "DRL" type asset > and > POST the text. > > On 29 January 2013 08:40, Esteban Aliverti &lt; > esteban.aliverti@ > &gt;wrote: > >> As far as I know, there is no API for DRL creation. >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >> >> Esteban Aliverti >> - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM, benq2188 &lt; > bengisaglam@ > &gt; wrote: >> >>> Esteban thanks for the quick reply, so in this case my question is, >>> which >>> object is the key in the API to create .drl rule ? Should I create >>> RuleModel? >>> >>> Also how can I store that .drl via POST method of the REST? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Bengi. >>> >>> >>> Esteban wrote >>> > If you are not planning to use Guvnor to author your rules, there is >>> no >>> > need to store them in BRL format. You can store your rules as >>> 'technical >>> > rules' directly. >>> > >>> > Best Regards, >>> > >>> > >>> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >>> > >>> > Esteban Aliverti >>> > - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:10 PM, benq2188 &lt; >>> >>> > bengisaglam@ >>> >>> > &gt; wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi everyone, >>> >> >>> >> I would like to implement an Expert System which I can have my own UI >>> to >>> >> generate user defined rules, and I am planning to use REST API to >>> >> insert/update/delete the rules,which are in the guvnor repository. >>> Inside >>> >> the guvnor, I would like to store my rules in .drl format. So I was >>> >> wondering two thing: >>> >> >>> >> - Is that possible to create a brl file in XStream xml format as >>> output >>> >> of >>> >> the UI, and store it in the repository as .drl format?. (I know the >>> >> conversion from .brl to .drl is possible by using BRDRLPersistance >>> >> object.) >>> >> If it is possible then which object is the key point to create it >>> from >>> >> the >>> >> "package org.drools.ide.common.client.modeldriven.brl"? >>> >> >>> >> -Another problem, by using REST API I can update and retrieve an >>> asset >>> in >>> >> text/plain format, however I could not succeed to insert new asset >>> into >>> >> repository by using POST method. So how can I insert a new .drl rule >>> into >>> >> repository via REST. >>> >> >>> >> I will appreciate if you have some sample code for any of them and >>> will >>> >> be >>> >> greatful for any help, >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> >>> >> Bengi. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> View this message in context: >>> >> >>> http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... >>> >> Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> rules-users mailing list >>> >> >>> >>> > rules-users@.jboss >>> >>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > rules-users mailing list >>> >>> > rules-users@.jboss >>> >>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... >>> Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> > rules-users@.jboss >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> > rules-users@.jboss >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@.jboss > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... 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Thanks Mike, My UI needs to be able to edit/delete/insert rules authored, and rules authored in my UI won't also be edited in Guvnor by users, user will interact and do all modification and creation through my UI but we are planning to author our users using Guvnor. Thats why I confused in which asset type format should I store rules regarding to authentication issue. Apart from this, I followed the documentation and succeed put and get a DRL via REST, but could not manage to create and delete a DRL via REST API , if you have some useful link or sample code for it I would appreciate. Thanks in advance, Bengi. manstis wrote > Hello, > > If your UI needs to be able to edit existing rules authored with it then > you'll need to convert from the persistent format back to whatever model > your UI uses. > > Guvnor already has this, as you have found, with it's *internal* BRL > format > and related classes. Guvnor stores RuleModel as XML (XStream of RuleModel) > and uses this for it's UI. > > When Guvnor needs DRL (e.g when building a package or when the users wants > to view the source) it uses BRDRLPersistence to translate RuleModel to > DRL. > > Will rules authored in your UI also be editable in Guvnor - in which case > use of BRL would also be a good choice. > > Guvnor 6.0 might have the ability to round-trip between DRL and RuleModel > removing BRL altogether. If you elect to pursue this then storing the Rule > from your UI as DRL could also work provided your UI used RuleModel. > > With kind regards, > > Mike > > On 29 January 2013 09:38, benq2188 &lt; > bengisaglam@ > &gt; wrote: > >> Thanks for the reply, >> >> It seems with this way I need to create my own rule parser to have "DRL" >> type asset since the rules will be created by users. >> >> My aim is to facilitate from Guvnor api as much as I can, instead of >> creating my parser I though that there might be some class which helps to >> create rules. For now I havent decided yet between "BRL" or "DRL" type >> asset >> to create rules, from customized UI the output should be the rule itself >> and >> I need to POST it by using REST API. So in this point what do you >> suggest? >> Do you think org.drools.ide.common.client.modeldriven.brl.RuleModel class >> may an option to represent rules which are created by users?(and after >> that >> persisting them using BRDRLPersistance class to store in guvnor >> repository >> via REST) or instead, could it be an option to create "BRL" type asset >> from >> my UI using guvnor API? >> >> Please >> >> Regards, >> >> Bengi. >> >> >> >> >> manstis wrote >> > DRL assets in Guvnor are stored as plain text. >> > >> > You should be able to use the REST API to create a new "DRL" type asset >> > and >> > POST the text. >> > >> > On 29 January 2013 08:40, Esteban Aliverti &lt; >> >> > esteban.aliverti@ >> >> > &gt;wrote: >> > >> >> As far as I know, there is no API for DRL creation. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> >> >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >> >> >> >> Esteban Aliverti >> >> - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:32 PM, benq2188 &lt; >> >> > bengisaglam@ >> >> > &gt; wrote: >> >> >> >>> Esteban thanks for the quick reply, so in this case my question is, >> >>> which >> >>> object is the key in the API to create .drl rule ? Should I create >> >>> RuleModel? >> >>> >> >>> Also how can I store that .drl via POST method of the REST? >> >>> >> >>> Regards, >> >>> >> >>> Bengi. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Esteban wrote >> >>> > If you are not planning to use Guvnor to author your rules, there >> is >> >>> no >> >>> > need to store them in BRL format. You can store your rules as >> >>> 'technical >> >>> > rules' directly. >> >>> > >> >>> > Best Regards, >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >> >>> > >> >>> > Esteban Aliverti >> >>> > - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 2:10 PM, benq2188 &lt; >> >>> >> >>> > bengisaglam@ >> >>> >> >>> > &gt; wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> Hi everyone, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I would like to implement an Expert System which I can have my own >> UI >> >>> to >> >>> >> generate user defined rules, and I am planning to use REST API to >> >>> >> insert/update/delete the rules,which are in the guvnor repository. >> >>> Inside >> >>> >> the guvnor, I would like to store my rules in .drl format. So I >> was >> >>> >> wondering two thing: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> - Is that possible to create a brl file in XStream xml format as >> >>> output >> >>> >> of >> >>> >> the UI, and store it in the repository as .drl format?. (I know >> the >> >>> >> conversion from .brl to .drl is possible by using BRDRLPersistance >> >>> >> object.) >> >>> >> If it is possible then which object is the key point to create it >> >>> from >> >>> >> the >> >>> >> "package org.drools.ide.common.client.modeldriven.brl"? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -Another problem, by using REST API I can update and retrieve an >> >>> asset >> >>> in >> >>> >> text/plain format, however I could not succeed to insert new asset >> >>> into >> >>> >> repository by using POST method. So how can I insert a new .drl >> rule >> >>> into >> >>> >> repository via REST. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I will appreciate if you have some sample code for any of them and >> >>> will >> >>> >> be >> >>> >> greatful for any help, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Thanks, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Bengi. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> View this message in context: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... >> >>> >> Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> >> rules-users mailing list >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> > rules-users@.jboss >> >>> >> >>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > rules-users mailing list >> >>> >> >>> > rules-users@.jboss >> >>> >> >>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> View this message in context: >> >>> >> http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... >> >>> Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> rules-users mailing list >> >>> >> >> > rules-users@.jboss >> >> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> rules-users mailing list >> >> >> >> > rules-users@.jboss >> >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> >> >> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > rules-users mailing list >> >> > rules-users@.jboss >> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... >> Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> > rules-users@.jboss >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@.jboss > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Custom-UI-to-create-rules-and-inserting... 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