Re: [aerogear-dev] Data Sync Thoughts

On Jan 28, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Summers Pittman <supittma(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > On 01/28/2014 10:58 AM, Lucas Holmquist wrote: >> On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Summers Pittman <supittma(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> >>> On 01/28/2014 10:48 AM, Lucas Holmquist wrote: >>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:30 AM, Summers Pittman <supittma(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 01/28/2014 09:36 AM, Lucas Holmquist wrote: >>>>>> yup, this is another Data Sync thread, >>>>>> >>>>>>> From a client side perspective, i have concerns that there is still not a clear direction yet. >>>>>> I know there are multiple ideas floating around on what our model should be, i'm all for choice, but what about deciding on 1 model to get started with. Then later once we have this nailed down, we can have other "adapters" with different models perhaps >>>>> All the data model is is an envelope of sync metadata around an object >>>>> right? >>>> right >>>> >>>>> We also need to think about the API and server/client protocol as well. >>>>> >>>>> I think that for sync 1.0 we could focus on the following behavior (it >>>>> worked for my demos at least) >>>>> >>>>> 1. We have a Sync factory similar to Pipeline, Authenticator, >>>>> Registrar, and KeyService. >>>>> 2. The Sync factory consumes/manages Synchronizer instances. >>>>> 3. AG Synchronizer listens for sync messages using UnifiedPush endpoints. >>>> i thought for a 1.0 we weren't thinking about "realtime" >>> When I hear realtime I think sub 100 ms updates to all clients. (think >>> gaming) >>> >>> What I thought we were going for was something closer to email. The >>> data gets changed and at some point in the future the client knows. More >>> specifically, the thing the ONE thing that makes sync special is it is a >>> push instead of poll implementation. >> this makes sense, but i guess it would be push when available. thinking web and crappy web socket support( dang you carriers ) > Right. I'm not saying lets do something complicated. I'm saying lets > use GCM, iOS CM, and simple push to send notifications to tell the > client something. In simplePush case it is "this data changed, get the > new stuff and update yourself". In Android and iOS case it may be that > or it may be "here is new data". > > In general, I am fine for getting a message saying something like > Documents/Schedules/1/${revision}. Then I can check my revisions, fetch > data if necessary, update my local data, and send any updates. That > SHOULD (I think) be doable with simplepush as well right? not sure how i feel about using "push"( APNS, GCM, SimplePush ) stuff for sync. then we are relying on these 3rd party services,

> >> >>>>> 4. AG Synchronizer sends sync messages using Pipes >>>>> 5. AG Synchronizer holds local data in a store >>>>> >>>>> 6. When AGSynchronizer gets a message it is responsible for updating >>>>> the Store and then notifying code listing for updates OR for notifying >>>>> the code that an error has occurred and needs to be addressed. >>>>> >>>>> 7. When the developer updates data in the store, the synchronizer >>>>> should package that data and send it to the server. The synchronizer is >>>>> responsible for error handling, retrying, back-off, etc. >>>>> >>>>> 8. We should include multiple synchronizer implementations to deal with >>>>> multiple very simple use cases which involve legacy systems. (For >>>>> instance polling to load static data on a schedule.) >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? Tomatoes? >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev