Hi Amin,
I'm looking at way too much stuff, it's very welcome that you look at
it. I didn't assign it to me as I've too much other stuff already
assigned.
Sometimes I do some experiments locally but I do only commit if it's
looking good, most of the time I need to bring something up here for
feedback:
help and discussion are always welcome.
Cheers,
Sanne
2010/1/9 Amin Mohammed-Coleman <aminmc(a)gmail.com>:
Hi Sanne
Thanks for the advice! I'll take a look at it.
Cheers
Amin
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sanne Grinovero <sanne.grinovero(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Amin,
> I've been looking a bit in this, but didn't take any action as we
> didn't discuss any strategy, so glad you join in propose something.
> I didn't think of jms, it's ok we provide some way for the end user to
> override whatever we provide, but I think we should just provide
> the basic stuff: logging the error or propagate it back when possible.
> And then add some extensibility like plugin loading the usual way.
>
> Originally (Hibernate Search 3.0.x) the changes made to different
> indexes were serialized, so when using the "sync" backend the same
> process would have applied changes to the index and, in case of
> exceptions, this would have been propagated up to user's code making
> it impossible to go unnoticed, or at least moving responsibility of
> handling it to the developer.
> When using the "async" mode for backend a different thread would have
> handled the indexwriter, so in case of an exception the error would
> have killed the separate thread, go unnoticed, and as we use a
> ThreadPool a new thread would have been spawned to replace the failed
> one.
>
> Since Search 3.1.x both "sync" and "async" use a separate thread
- to
> be able to apply changes to different indexes in parallel - so
> exceptions are going unnoticed by user code even in "sync" mode. Look
> into "run" method of
> org.hibernate.search.backend.impl.lucene.LuceneBackendQueueProcessor,
> it creates a org.hibernate.search.backend.impl.lucene.QueueProcessors
> where most of this logic resides.
> This impl will use either runAllAsync() or runAllWaiting() depending
> on backend configuration (async/sync). The Async version just
> schedules the different tasks, the sync one is going to do the same
> but will wait for all of them to have finished before returning
> control, making sure to implement the sync behaviour even while using
> several threads to perform it. I was inspired by
>
>
java.util.concurrent.AbstractExecutorService.invokeAll(Collection<Callable<T>>
> tasks), as mentioned in code comments, which is ignoring
> ExecutionException, so this empty catch block should be used now to do
> something.
>
> I'd suggest to provide this defaults:
>
> * for sync backend:
> by default: rethrow the exception (like old behaviour)
> configurable alternative: log it
>
> * for async backend:
> log it (it's not useful to rethrow as nobody is listening on it)
>
> To handle these cases only you would add the log statement, an rethrow
> it, fixing the QueueProcessors code.
> To give full control to the end user of what to do, I'd suggest to let
> him specify an implementationf of
> java.lang.Thread.UncaughtExceptionHandler
> and so we can set that on the thread.
> The backend is using the default JVM "Executors.newFixedThreadPool( 1
> );" (initialized at
> org.hibernate.search.backend.impl.lucene.PerDPResources:51)
> but we could change that to use the Search Executor factory
> "org.hibernate.search.batchindexing.Executors" I later added for the
> batchbackend.
> The nice thingy for this Executor is that it customizes the thread
> names so you can easily spot Search's threads in monitoring/debugging
> tools;
> we could have a setUncaughtExceptionHandler( userImplementation ) in
> org.hibernate.search.batchindexing.Executors:85.
> If you change it there, the same handler would be used to manage
> errors in the batch indexer, so you solve both problems at once.
> Our "log the error" implementation would be the nice default for an
> exception handler, but still I'd like to make sure the user code will
> get the error propagated when
> using async mode.
>
> Cheers,
> Sanne
>
>
> 2010/1/9 Amin Mohammed-Coleman <aminmc(a)gmail.com>:
> > Hi All
> >
> > Emmanuel asked me to look at this issue (HSearch 421) where exceptions
> > happening in backend process which are going unnoticed. I was wondering
> > if
> > I could get some advice/thoughts on how to tackle the problem. The
> > issue
> > mentioned providing the user the option to decide how to handle
> > exceptions
> > (for example queues, logs, etc), so I'm guessing there needs to be some
> > custom option that the user will need to set up, maybe something like
> > this?
> >
> > exception_handling_strategy=jms
> > exception_handling_strategy_jms_queue=
> >
> > or if they wanted to log the exceptions:
> >
> > exception_handling_strategy=log
> >
> > or the user could create a custom class which implements a particular
> > interface to handle exceptions
> >
> > exception_handling_strategy=custom
> > exception_handling_custom_class=ExceptionHandling
> >
> > I could be completely wrong in the above approach and therefore would be
> > grateful for any input.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Amin
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