Hi All, I just received notification about the following comment as it seemed I voted for this issue myself years ago :) https://hibernate.onjira.com/browse/HHH-5465?page=com.atlassian.jira.plug... It's sad that we don't have time to apply patches provided by someone else with best intentions to help, shouldn't we at least reply something? Of course that involves myself too, just that I don't feel that comfortable in evaluating patches for the ORM module.. since this is long pending I'm assuming someone already looked at it and didn't like it? Cheers. Sanne