This week we discussed progress on 3.6: 1) both of the main features (types and key-many-to-one) are largely done; so I will start making the pre-release schedule for alphas/betas 2) discussed merging of annotations again; basically holding until the docs are merged. 3) discussed possibility of merging jmx code back into core as well now that we have moved to JDK 1.5 which includes the jmx classes 4) discussed possibility of merging testing/testsuite back into core as well. revisited why, maven limitations, and discussed move to gradle as a way to alleviate this as well as other issue we have with maven. 5) As a follow up to the gradle discussion we agreed to not decode today. We will put this off until next week. But if importing a gradle project into both eclipse and intellij is working and we can get the jdocbook stuff working in gradle, then i plan on moving to gradle for the build. 6) move to H2 as default test database complete on trunk. This led to a general realization that we may need to revamp our temp table usage a bit on a few databases. I will send a follow up email about that topic a little later. -- Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; http://hibernate.org