Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development community

i never thought hibernate was simple, my problem is that i don't see how > anyone outside jboss personal can actually create fixes (patches or commits) > without internal overview of hibernate. and jumping head first is actually > what a new developer in jboss would need to do, even if he did had prior > usage of hibernate. so either there are white papers kept in jboss for > their use only , or the information is pass down orally by a senior > developer. > There are no internal secret jboss documents - all the information is public. Many people are creating patches to hibernate in various areas by simply reading the code that is having a problem and fix it - of course for more detailed hardcore bugs more info is needed, but no written documentation would help you there - you would still need to look at the code to learn it. btw. I did not work for JBoss when I started contribute to Hibernate, and there are non-JBoss committers today too - the right to commit is earned by showing skill and drive; not by getting hired. to give an example, we have a developer with a 7 year experience in java > j2ee, working on an undocumented homegrown framework with no internal > overview documentation, and only oral info passed from previous developer, > and that's not nearly enough as fixes usually break something else. > Look at the unittests, if you break them you know you messed up - if they pass the chance of you having messed up is less ;) /max > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Chris Bredesen <cbredesen(a)redhat.com&lt;mailto: > cbredesen(a)redhat.com&gt;&gt; wrote: > > Some observations on this thread: > > 1. You do not need m2eclipse. /trunk and /Branch_3_3 both use > Maven 2 and will build straight away with "mvn compile". > > 2. You can generate Eclipse or IDEA project files from the command > line in the standard Maven way (mvn eclipse:eclipse or mvn > idea:idea) and then import the projects. I understand that IDEA > reads Maven metadata natively but I cannot speak to that. > > 3. Only committers are allowed to ... commit. This is what the > svn.jboss.org <http://svn.jboss.org/> server is for. > anonsvn.jboss.org <http://anonsvn.jboss.org/> is a replica with > read-only privileges. Use this for now. You are free to open > JIRA tickets and attach patch files which will be reviewed by > Hibernate committers and possibly committed in a future release. > > 4. Yes, Hibernate is complicated. It is not a trivial project to > jump into head-first. So please understand that there are many > ways to contribute: > > * Helping on the forums > * Hanging around in IRC to participate/answer questions > * Improving the wiki > * Filing JIRA issues for bugs or attaching test cases that are > required > > Happy Hibernating, > > Chris > > joy deep wrote: > > Thanks soo much , I was by the side of the ocean no idea about > depth . > Are only JBoss people allowed to make changes !!! > > > Thanks and Regards > Joydeep Bhattacharjee > > > --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Elhanan Maayan /&lt;elh.mailgate(a)gmail.com > <mailto:elh.mailgate@gmail.com>>/* wrote: > > > From: Elhanan Maayan <elh.mailgate(a)gmail.com > <mailto:elh.mailgate@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development > community > To: "joy deep" <bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in > <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>> > Cc: "Peter Harrison" <peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz > <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz>>, > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org> > > Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 6:38 PM > > i've started a small blog http://osventure.wordpress.com/ > about my > experiences with open source, documenting my attempts. > please note that you will need m2eclipse plugin to > download the > code, as the svn repo is not in eclipse project. > you will then need to change your .settings.xml file for > maven in > ~/m2 direcotry for jboss plugins > also after you downloaded the code you will encounter > huge amount of > compiler errors you will need to the following: > 1. run mvn install on the pom parent - to generate some > antlr files > that were not generated during the initial load > 2. change hibernate-core project compiler settings to : > generated .class file compatibility to 1.4, source > compatibility : 1.4 > 3. on hibernate-common-annotations project change the compiler > error/warnings , turn the forbidden reference (access rules) to > warning instead of error. > good luck getting your feet, personally i feel somewhat > drowning > when i'm trying to figure out this bug : > http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3856 > personally i have no idea how anyone outside jboss can > even begin to > start modify the code without some white papers or > explanation on > the internal structure of hibernate. > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, joy deep > <bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in> > </mc/compose?to=bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in > <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>>> wrote: > > Hi, > Is there any SVN repository from where I can > download the > source codes, and set up my project in eclipse .Can you > also > give the Bugzilla link for hibernate.I want to get my > feet wet > with the code soon . Thanks for replying. > > > Thanks and Regards > Joydeep Bhattacharjee > > > --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Peter Harrison > /&lt;peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz > <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz> > </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz > <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz>>>/* wrote: > > > From: Peter Harrison > <peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz > <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz> > </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz > <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz>>> > > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate > development community > To: bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in > <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in> > </mc/compose?to=bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>> > > Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 5:02 AM > > The ideal way to get involved is to download the > source and > get familiar with it first - if you have not > already. I am > here because I made some modifications to hibernate > for my > own project and want to contribute back. The best > way to > start is to look at existing bug reports, write a > patch or > two and attach them to the ticket. Of course, I'm in a > similar boat as you, in that I'm not an active > committer > right now. I'm personally looking at issues which > affect me > - aka I don't want to be committing code for things > that I > am not having practical use for. > > 2009/4/12 <bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in > <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in> > <http://mc/compose?to=bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>> > > > Hi All, > > I am new to hibernate development > community though > I have been using the the product for some time > now , I > would like to be a part of this wonderful > product how > can I get on with it . > Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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