10:03 a.m.
On 13 August 2015 at 15:50, Brett Meyer <brmeyer(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Sorry, late to this...
My vote would be to get rid of SourceForge entirely. I can't stand their ethics,
services, or downtime...
We use download.jboss.org for Artificer and haven't had any issues. Fully supports
SCP or SFTP -- I already have it scripted and would be more than happy to help put it
together for Hibernate. Plus, jboss.org/redhat.org now include Splunk for parsing the
server logs -- getting download metrics is fairly straight-forward.
That sounds quite nice!
But Hibernate has been at Sourceforce for a very long time though
(ever?) and if we were to move platform / location each time something
unpleasant happens that wouldn't be good for users; take the Google
Code initiative for example.. not long ago it looked like everyone was
going to move there, but it's dead already.
But you're right: Sourceforge has crossed several lines - including
the ethical one - so I'd not be against moving away, but if we all
agree on moving I'd like to see how we can put some form of
"redirect", or just maintain a long term notice, or simply keep
uploading to both places for longer.
If we move, I'd pick a new place which is going to be for sure stable
in the long term; my preference would be to something under the DNS
control of hibernate.org .. that might be download.jboss.org under the
hoods, but I'd prefer to expose it in a way which is under control by
the Hibernate group for the very long term. I'll ask the jboss.org
team if that's an option.
Sanne
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> To: "Emmanuel Bernard" <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org>, "Gunnar
Morling" <gunnar(a)hibernate.org>
> Cc: "Hibernate Dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 2:37:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] Hosting of binaries
>
> FWIW the SourceForge upload UI seems to be restored.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 2:14 AM Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org>
> wrote:
>
> > For info, SourceForge hopes to restore ssh access (the last service they
> > will activate) August 3rd.
> >
> >
http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-infrastructure-and-service-restor...
> >
> > > On 28 Jul 2015, at 10:27, Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Your proposed order seems good. I'd exclude GitHub if it's not
> > scriptable (UI only) as this will hinder releases from the CI server.
> > >
> > > 2015-07-28 9:39 GMT+02:00 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org
> > <mailto:emmanuel@hibernate.org>>:
> > > As some of you know Sourceforge has had a severe distributed file system
> > corruption and they have been working on it for a full week. You can read
> > their blog for regular updates http://sourceforge.net/blog/ <
> > http://sourceforge.net/blog/>
> > > The concrete issue for us is that we cannot upload new files: Hibernate
> > Validator and Hibernate ORM are now pending a release.
> > >
> > > There are 4 options on the table
> > >
> > > Be patient::
> > > SourceForge will eventually reopen upload, I imagine it might take form
> > one to two weeks.
> > > Their binary hosting support is relatively correct and all of our
> > download statistics are there.
> > >
> > > Move to download.jboss.org <http://download.jboss.org/>::
> > > JBoss has a facility to host binaries. WildFly amongst other uses it. We
> > can ask them if they are happy with it.
> > > It is not connected to the rest of the forum/CMS infra, it’s a simple
> > file upload AFAIK so easily scriptable.
> > > They also offer statistics but how needs to be investigated.
> > >
> > > Move to GitHub::
> > > GitHub has a binary upload facility. I could only find a web based
> > approach (can it be done programmatically?).
> > > They don’t seem to have any statistics service, which is a big negative
> > point.
> > > Also I don’t trust GitHub anymore for their binary hosting. They had a
> > version in the past that they scrapped with barely no notice. I’m not
> > exactly willing to give them my trust again.
> > >
> > > Move to BinTray::
> > > Binary hosting is their life and blood. People seem happy with them. It
> > seems however that the statistics require a paying package instead of the
> > free oss tier.
> > >
> > > I think we should try in the following order:
> > >
> > > 1. Be patient with Sourceforge (but for how long?)
> > > 2. go for download.jboss.org <http://download.jboss.org/> and before
> > that ask around for the process and stability of the infrastructure
> > > 3. explore Bintray
> > > 4. GitHub (did I say that I no longer trust their binary hosting
> > support?)
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