[hibernate-dev] beginners have an hard time to help themselves

Hi, as you all know, the forums are terribly overloaded with information about Hibernate "getting started", and so is google. as a reference, this is just an example of general feedback: https://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1008200 I get many comments on the same line from everybody I meet around, not sure what could be done besides bringing on the work on "Getting Started Guide", maybe this user is right and this documentation should have a new forum to collect feedback on it? I don't think we would be able to help all people in a "getting started" forum, but maybe it could work if we set strong rules and try have people limit their posts about documentation feedback - a JIRA project for the getting started guides? We could set it up as a new forum area, but as a locked forum with pointers to reference manuals and instructions to file issues, limited to docs only. I don't think this is brilliant, just tossing out some ideas; please suggest alternatives! Cheers, Sanne