Re: [hibernate-dev] HHH-12172 - Bintray v. OSSRH

I sat down and did some calculations to get a better idea of whether this is feasible. 5.3.0.Beta1 had a total size of 135M (31M in "maven artifacts", 104 in release bundles). At 30G limit, we'd be able to do ~222 releases before we hit that limit (30 / .135 = 222.2222) So if only ORM is going to move to Bintray, I think the 30G limit is not a hindrance. Do we see other projects moving away from publishing to JBoss Nexus, and if so what publishing repo do y'all plan to use?

On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 2:21 PM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > > Bintray said they would increase the storage limit to 30G for Hibernate. > However that limit is per organization, which is the top-level thing > (https://bintray.com/hibernate). I think we'd eat that up in no time, > especially if other projects plan on moving to Bintray at any time. > > One way around that would be to have each project be its own Bintray > organization. > > > On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 7:33 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org&gt; > wrote: >> >> 2018-01-12 12:59 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >> >> > Personally I'm neutral. I surely wouldn't want to manage our own >> > Artifactory, but since JFrog will do that I'm not concerned about the >> > platform management being horrible. >> > >> > Artifactory looks better, OSSRH has the benefit of possibly having >> > better integration with Maven. >> > >> > There are some benefits on staying to JBoss's nexus though; not >> > expressing a strong opinion but let's clarify these. >> > >> > # Stats >> > We need download statistics, which I understand they all offer, but an >> > absolute number is not as useful as being able to compare the numbers >> > in one dashboard across various others of our projects. >> > Also not looking forward to have to login to multiple systems to gather >> > it >> > all. >> > >> > # Quality control of artifacts >> > I'm understanding that JBoss Nexus does several strict validations on >> > our poms; sure they have been in the way as it's not nice to see such >> > failures *during* a release but there's an upside to them as well. >> > AFAIK OSSRH also has similar rules, but the JBoss team one has >> > different ones, plus a deal with Sonatype to deem our stuff good >> > "pre-approved" so we don't have to satisfy the Sonatype rules too. >> > >> > # Signing >> > Also I'm understanding that to release on OSSRH we need to sign all >> > artifacts; not a bad idea but it's quite more papework and key >> > management. Such paperwork is handled for us by the JBoss Nexus team. >> > We'd need to install GPG on our release servers, get a organization >> > RSA key signed, and people stubbornly releasing manually will have to >> > create a key each, and have it approved by Sonatype. >> > >> >> Debezium already is released to OSSRH from our CI server. May be worth >> chatting to Jiri (added him to CC) about the details of setup. Note >> there's >> no need for key approval by Sonatype (at least last time I did it), you >> only need to publish them to some key server which you can do all by >> yourself. >> >> >> > >> > Not against migrating if this is what you all want - just making sure >> > we're keeping these into account. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Sanne >> > >> > >> > On 12 January 2018 at 02:47, Brett Meyer <brett(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: >> > > Sorry for the late and probably irrelevant response... >> > > >> > > We're using an in-house Artifactory instance at a gig and it's been >> > > trash. I can't speak to the UI or management end, nor Bintray, but >> > > Artifactory's platform doesn't seem as polished (can't believe I just >> > > said that) or stable (can't believe I said that either) as Nexus >> > > (what >> > > is happening). >> > > >> > > I use OSSRH for some minor projects and have generally had decent >> > > luck >> > > -- including a few interactions with the support team that went well. >> > > OSSRH != JBoss Nexus, although I definitely understand the wounds... >> > > >> > > >> > > On 12/19/17 8:34 AM, Steve Ebersole wrote: >> > >> HHH-12172 is about moving away from the JBoss Nexus repo for >> > >> publishing >> > our >> > >> artifacts. There is an open question about which service to use >> > instead - >> > >> Sonatype's OSSRH (Nexus) or JFrog's Bintray (Artifactory). >> > >> >> > >> Personally I think Artifactory is far superior of a UI/platform. We >> > >> all >> > >> know Nexus from the JBoss deployment of it, and we have all >> > >> generally >> > had >> > >> nothing good to say about it. >> > >> >> > >> But I am wondering if anyone has practical experience with either, >> > >> or >> > knows >> > >> persons/projects tyay do and could share their experiences. E.g., >> > >> even >> > >> though I prefer Bintray in almost every regard, I am very nervous >> > >> that >> > it >> > >> seems next to impossible to get help/support with it. The same may >> > >> be >> > true >> > >> with OSSRH - I don't know, hence why I am asking ;) >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> > _______________________________________________ >> > hibernate-dev mailing list >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev