Re: [hibernate-dev] [Search and more] What is new in a give release

Ok, this will never end... It was good to merge less than 24h ago and now you're arguing against the very point of this work: provide users with more information regarding each series, so that they know what's new. (see the first email by Emmanuel) Please make concrete, exhaustive proposals. From what I understand, your concerns could be addressed with only simple changes to the menu (hide older series, add an "archived series" entry), but I don't know what to think anymore. Yoann Rodière Hibernate NoORM Team yoann(a)hibernate.org On 22 September 2017 at 16:49, Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > After some chats and a night of sleep on this, I think we need to stop > obsessing about guiding people into the choice among multiple minor > versions: it's hard enough that they have to pick a project. > > We need to encourage people to use the latest versions and we need to > send a clear, strong message about this, no middle ground fiddling > with names and definitions > > We can give them a choice between using the latest stable vs the > latest development, but beyond this we're giving too much choice. > > Yet I do believe we should make it "not-hard" for people looking for > details of other recent versions; could we consider them all > "archived" ? Some drop downs on key areas like the ones in ORM today > would still be welcome to make it easy to find - but let's remove the > version choice from the "primary navigation path". > > There are some exceptional cases coming to mind which would need some > mitigation; for example the fact that OGM won't work with the latest > Search and ORM releases! > But there are better solutions than to pollute the website experience > by making the matching versions too visible, for example bundle it > with OGM, link to the right versions from the OGM pages, or have the > modules eventually pull-in the required dependencies, etc... > (technical details irrelevant in this context). > > Thanks, > Sanne > > > > > On 22 September 2017 at 12:21, Guillaume Smet <guillaume.smet(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org&gt; > > wrote: > >> > >> *IF* you are willing to improve a minor point: I didn't expect the > >> "Releases" menu to be expanded when not being in any of these > >> sections. > > > > > > Let's keep that one for another time. > > > >> > >> Related: I wouldn't highlight both the current release and the > >> "Releases" label, the shading looks odd and misaligned. > > > > > > Yoann fixed it. > > > > Could we push that version to production and iterate after if required? > > > > It's a tad better than what we have now and I don't see a reason to > delay it > > more. > > > > Emmanuel? > > > > -- > > Guillaume > > > _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev