Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development community

i never thought hibernate was simple, my problem is that i don't see how anyone outside jboss personal can actually create fixes (patches or commits) without internal overview of hibernate. and jumping head first is actually what a new developer in jboss would need to do, even if he did had prior usage of hibernate. so either there are white papers kept in jboss for their use only , or the information is pass down orally by a senior developer.

to give an example, we have a developer with a 7 year experience in java j2ee, working on an undocumented homegrown framework with no internal overview documentation, and only oral info passed from previous developer, and that's not nearly enough as fixes usually break something else.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Chris Bredesen <cbredesen(a)redhat.com <mailto:cbredesen@redhat.com>> wrote: Some observations on this thread: 1. You do not need m2eclipse. /trunk and /Branch_3_3 both use Maven 2 and will build straight away with "mvn compile". 2. You can generate Eclipse or IDEA project files from the command line in the standard Maven way (mvn eclipse:eclipse or mvn idea:idea) and then import the projects. I understand that IDEA reads Maven metadata natively but I cannot speak to that. 3. Only committers are allowed to ... commit. This is what the svn.jboss.org <http://svn.jboss.org/> server is for. anonsvn.jboss.org <http://anonsvn.jboss.org/> is a replica with read-only privileges. Use this for now. You are free to open JIRA tickets and attach patch files which will be reviewed by Hibernate committers and possibly committed in a future release. 4. Yes, Hibernate is complicated. It is not a trivial project to jump into head-first. So please understand that there are many ways to contribute: * Helping on the forums * Hanging around in IRC to participate/answer questions * Improving the wiki * Filing JIRA issues for bugs or attaching test cases that are required Happy Hibernating, Chris joy deep wrote: Thanks soo much , I was by the side of the ocean no idea about depth . Are only JBoss people allowed to make changes !!! Thanks and Regards Joydeep Bhattacharjee --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Elhanan Maayan /&lt;elh.mailgate(a)gmail.com <mailto:elh.mailgate@gmail.com>>/* wrote: From: Elhanan Maayan <elh.mailgate(a)gmail.com <mailto:elh.mailgate@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development community To: "joy deep" <bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>> Cc: "Peter Harrison" <peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz>>, hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org> Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 6:38 PM i've started a small blog http://osventure.wordpress.com/ about my experiences with open source, documenting my attempts. please note that you will need m2eclipse plugin to download the code, as the svn repo is not in eclipse project. you will then need to change your .settings.xml file for maven in ~/m2 direcotry for jboss plugins also after you downloaded the code you will encounter huge amount of compiler errors you will need to the following: 1. run mvn install on the pom parent - to generate some antlr files that were not generated during the initial load 2. change hibernate-core project compiler settings to : generated .class file compatibility to 1.4, source compatibility : 1.4 3. on hibernate-common-annotations project change the compiler error/warnings , turn the forbidden reference (access rules) to warning instead of error. good luck getting your feet, personally i feel somewhat drowning when i'm trying to figure out this bug : http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/HHH-3856 personally i have no idea how anyone outside jboss can even begin to start modify the code without some white papers or explanation on the internal structure of hibernate. On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:05 AM, joy deep <bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in> </mc/compose?to=bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>>> wrote: Hi, Is there any SVN repository from where I can download the source codes, and set up my project in eclipse .Can you also give the Bugzilla link for hibernate.I want to get my feet wet with the code soon . Thanks for replying. Thanks and Regards Joydeep Bhattacharjee --- On *Tue, 14/4/09, Peter Harrison /&lt;peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz> </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz>>>/* wrote: From: Peter Harrison <peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz> </mc/compose?to=peter.harrison(a)methodmaker.co.nz <mailto:peter.harrison@methodmaker.co.nz>>> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] want to join hibernate development community To: bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in> </mc/compose?to=bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>> Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 5:02 AM The ideal way to get involved is to download the source and get familiar with it first - if you have not already. I am here because I made some modifications to hibernate for my own project and want to contribute back. The best way to start is to look at existing bug reports, write a patch or two and attach them to the ticket. Of course, I'm in a similar boat as you, in that I'm not an active committer right now. I'm personally looking at issues which affect me - aka I don't want to be committing code for things that I am not having practical use for. 2009/4/12 <bha_joy(a)yahoo.co.in <mailto:bha_joy@yahoo.co.in> <http://mc/compose?to=bha_joy@yahoo.co.in>> Hi All, I am new to hibernate development community though I have been using the the product for some time now , I would like to be a part of this wonderful product how can I get on with it . Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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