But to me that is not a reason EAGER is the default. As the passage says,
LAZY is just a hint. So for a provider that does not support LAZY, EAGER
would be used instead anyway. No, some of the EG members specifically
argued for wanting to-one associations to be EAGER by default. IMO it was
a bad decision. But the majority rule.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:40 AM Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks,
Rhe only reason I found is this paragraph:
"The EAGER default for OneToOne and ManyToOne is for implementation
reasons (more difficult to implement), not because it is a good idea.
Technically in JPA LAZY is just a hint, and a JPA provider is not
required to support it, however in reality all main JPA providers support
it, and they would be pretty useless if they did not."
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Java_Persistence/Relationships#Lazy_Fetching
Vlad
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
> The Hibernate team argued against this, but we were outvoted. So...
> sorry I cannot "justify it" ;)
>
> Obviously as our previous default shows we believe the associations
> should be lazy by default.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:00 AM Vlad Mihalcea <mihalcea.vlad(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> Do you remember why the JPA User Group decided to make the ManyToOne and
>> the OneToOne associations EAGER by default?
>>
>> In Hibernate 3.x, these associations used to be LAZY, so there must have
>> been a reason for taking this decision.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vlad
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