Sorry the first link should have been : http://www.jboss.org/hibernate.html On 03/17/2010 01:25 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: > The first phase of the website migration is complete. We have the > magnolia site published : https://www.jboss.org/author/hibernate.html > and the Clearspace space published : > http://community.jboss.org/community/hibernate > > The next phase is to set up a vhost for hibernate.org here and set up > url mappings for well know urls from the old site. All that will happen > this evening. > > -- steve(a)hibernate.org http://hibernate.org _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

The first phase of the website migration is complete. We have the magnolia site published : https://www.jboss.org/author/hibernate.html and the Clearspace space published : http://community.jboss.org/community/hibernate The next phase is to set up a vhost for hibernate.org here and set up url mappings for well know urls from the old site. All that will happen this evening. -- steve(a)hibernate.org http://hibernate.org _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

It seemed very slow to me too, I had it loading in over 30 seconds sometimes - when already abandoned hopes. Yesterday I noticed by accident that there is a configuration panel about page properties which involves "enabling caching" and configurable expiry times relating to these caches - I didn't touch them, but maybe it's worthwhile to look into or ask directions about ? Sanne 2010/3/18 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: > Hello, > > I've done a few changes: > - I've homogenized the list of projects (dark background) for all > subprojects + core. I felt it was confusing to get that changed > - I've put the list of subprojects atop the getting started links > to be consistent with the other subproject pages > > I have a few questions: > - the site is quite slow here in europe. Is that the same for you? > - the admin site is super slow too > - can we activate several pages at the same time, or is it a one > page at a time activation? > - I was wondering if there was a way to get rid of the .html on > all pages. it seems to work without it but all links are using .html > > Todos? / remarks after seeing the site live: > - I feel like Core should be a subproject like the other ones, ie > have a generic welcome page but also a specialized page for core. > Otherwise it's a bit confusing as we mix the notions of Hibernate > the portfolio and Hibernate Core the ORM. > - the supported in should probably be declined for each subproject > (at least Validator and Search) > - I'm personally not a big fan multiple ways of reaching the same > page (ie top bar with nesting drop menus and the "quicklinks") > - some grey menus don't seem clickable (like build) > - the old links are pointing to a broken version of the site (like http://www.hibernate.org/410.html > ). > - the search engine is google but does not restrict to the > website, so you end up on external pages (or the broken links of > the old website) > > WDYT? > > The wiki seems broken at the moment so I will dive in it later ;) > > > On 17 mars 2010, at 19:25, Steve Ebersole wrote: > >> The first phase of the website migration is complete. We have the >> magnolia site published : https://www.jboss.org/author/ >> hibernate.html >> and the Clearspace space published : >> http://community.jboss.org/community/hibernate >> >> The next phase is to set up a vhost for hibernate.org here and set >> up >> url mappings for well know urls from the old site. All that will >> happen >> this evening. >> >> >> -- >> steve(a)hibernate.org >> http://hibernate.org >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >

> - I'm personally not a big fan multiple ways of reaching the same page (ie top bar with nesting drop menus and the "quicklinks") I could drop the quick links for Search, Validator and Metamodelgen as well. I just added them, because Core had a quick link section.

> Todos? / remarks after seeing the site live: > - I feel like Core should be a subproject like the other ones, ie have > a generic welcome page but also a specialized page for core. Otherwise > it's a bit confusing as we mix the notions of Hibernate the portfolio > and Hibernate Core the ORM. IMO that was a mistake we made

On 19 mars 2010, at 06:32, Steve Ebersole wrote: > Oops, one of my response got cut off... > >>> Todos? / remarks after seeing the site live: >>> - I feel like Core should be a subproject like the other ones, ie have >>> a generic welcome page but also a specialized page for core. Otherwise >>> it's a bit confusing as we mix the notions of Hibernate the portfolio >>> and Hibernate Core the ORM. >> IMO that was a mistake we made > > IMO that was a mistake we made a long time ago. Its not even > "portfolio". The issue is the difference in the notion of a community > and projects. We have one community and many projects that make up the > community. Like I said in the original email I think there should be: > 1) project pages which house the basic info for each project (where do i > get docs, download, etc). > 2) community site Yes but today's situation is like if JBoss AS was the top level project of all jboss.org projects and the jboss.org home page was pointing to AS docs, AS release infos etc and had subproject links to drools and co. In Hibernate there are two categories of projects. The ones that gravitate around the core ORM and require it or are useful in its context alone: - (core) - shards - metamodel generator The ones that can run without core or an ORM: - search - validator - (bean valiidation) And of course there is tools which for some reason is always uncategorizable :) Maybe we should differentiate them on the project pages

On 03/18/2010 05:11 PM, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > Hello, > > I've done a few changes: > - I've homogenized the list of projects (dark background) for all subprojects + core. I felt it was confusing to get that changed > - I've put the list of subprojects atop the getting started links to be consistent with the other subproject pages I personally do not view core as a subproject. I have heard both views. I'd prefer if we discuss changes like this prior to you coming in and just changing them to what you think. Personally I'd prefer to look at it as these are project pages and each sub-project has its own magnolia "project". Then the community is handled in Clearspace. Feel free to coordinate that with the jboss commmunity team and set it up.

> - the admin site is super slow too I assume you mean the author site. Dunno, in what way?

> - can we activate several pages at the same time, or is it a one page at a time activation? You can activate a node and below.

> - the supported in should probably be declined for each subproject (at least Validator and Search) see above

> - I'm personally not a big fan multiple ways of reaching the same page (ie top bar with nesting drop menus and the "quicklinks") > - some grey menus don't seem clickable (like build) If you don't set up the links in the nav for the node then they are not enabled, correct. > - the old links are pointing to a broken version of the site (like http://www.hibernate.org/410.html ). Such as where? What is 410.html? If its important then we have url remapping set up for certain old urls and can do the same here.

> - the search engine is google but does not restrict to the website, so you end up on external pages (or the broken links of the old website) No clue how that works