Ok the page http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/tools/reference/en/ html/setup.html lists such scant docs on how to install hibernate tools that its worthless really. I went to tools.hibernate.org and that didn't work either. Read up myriad of docs and had to traverse back to Eclipse tutorials on how to install a plugin which is supposed to make development easier. This has taken all morning :"How to install Hibernate Tools" and I notice I am not the only one apparently people all the way in Australia are bitten by the odd desire to make their life easier but often find that it just gets more difficult (just the installation! for a tool that is supposed to be "interoperable") I am using IBM Rational Application Developer 6 with 5000 "fixes" running on a windows platform. Its based on eclipse so I am hoping that it will work.