10:08 p.m.
Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how to best manage
scheduling issues.
We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly or every-other-week,
to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great idea.
One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just scheduling issues as a
means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an issue, on a "real
version" anyway, should mean something. It should mean some level of
dedication to finish that task for that release. In short, unless you are
volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that release, please do not
schedule it for that release.
As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail and Andrea
involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I mention this is that
Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these. So we will find a
time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I recommend that we
leverage HipChat for these discussion.
Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting Monday, so I would like
to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am thinking 1pm my time
(11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that work for you after
Austin?
8:45 p.m.
for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be good.
On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how to best
manage
scheduling issues.
We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly or every-other-week,
to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great idea.
One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just scheduling issues as a
means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an issue, on a "real
version" anyway, should mean something. It should mean some level of
dedication to finish that task for that release. In short, unless you are
volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that release, please do not
schedule it for that release.
As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail and Andrea
involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I mention this is that
Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these. So we will find a
time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I recommend that we
leverage HipChat for these discussion.
Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting Monday, so I would like
to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am thinking 1pm my time
(11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that work for you after
Austin?
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2:51 p.m.
Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be involved.
----- Original Message -----
From: "andrea boriero" <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
To: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
Cc: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be good.
On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
> Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how to best manage
> scheduling issues.
>
> We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly or every-other-week,
> to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great idea.
>
> One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just scheduling issues as a
> means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an issue, on a "real
> version" anyway, should mean something. It should mean some level of
> dedication to finish that task for that release. In short, unless you are
> volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that release, please do not
> schedule it for that release.
>
> As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail and Andrea
> involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I mention this is that
> Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these. So we will find a
> time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I recommend that we
> leverage HipChat for these discussion.
>
> Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting Monday, so I would like
> to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am thinking 1pm my time
> (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that work for you after
> Austin?
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
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8:10 p.m.
11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
Gail
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be involved.
----- Original Message -----
> From: "andrea boriero" <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> Cc: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>
> for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be good.
>
> On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
>
> > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how to best manage
> > scheduling issues.
> >
> > We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly or
> > every-other-week,
> > to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great idea.
> >
> > One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just scheduling issues as
> > a
> > means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an issue, on a
> > "real
> > version" anyway, should mean something. It should mean some level of
> > dedication to finish that task for that release. In short, unless you
> > are
> > volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that release, please do not
> > schedule it for that release.
> >
> > As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail and Andrea
> > involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I mention this is
> > that
> > Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these. So we will find
> > a
> > time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I recommend that we
> > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
> >
> > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting Monday, so I would
> > like
> > to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am thinking 1pm my time
> > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that work for you after
> > Austin?
> > _______________________________________________
> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
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10:17 p.m.
+1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally as needed
Sanne
On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
Gail
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
> To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>
> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be involved.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "andrea boriero" <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> > To: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> > Cc: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> >
> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be good.
> >
> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how to best manage
> > > scheduling issues.
> > >
> > > We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly or
> > > every-other-week,
> > > to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great idea.
> > >
> > > One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just scheduling issues as
> > > a
> > > means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an issue, on a
> > > "real
> > > version" anyway, should mean something. It should mean some level of
> > > dedication to finish that task for that release. In short, unless you
> > > are
> > > volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that release, please do not
> > > schedule it for that release.
> > >
> > > As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail and Andrea
> > > involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I mention this is
> > > that
> > > Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these. So we will find
> > > a
> > > time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I recommend that we
> > > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
> > >
> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting Monday, so I would
> > > like
> > > to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am thinking 1pm my time
> > > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that work for you after
> > > Austin?
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
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12:06 a.m.
When will we start having these meetings?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
+1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally as needed
Sanne
On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
> Gail
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
>> To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>>
>> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be involved.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "andrea boriero" <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
>> > To: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> > Cc: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>> >
>> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be good.
>> >
>> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
>> >
>> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how to best
>> > > manage
>> > > scheduling issues.
>> > >
>> > > We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly or
>> > > every-other-week,
>> > > to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great idea.
>> > >
>> > > One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just scheduling
issues
>> > > as
>> > > a
>> > > means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an issue, on a
>> > > "real
>> > > version" anyway, should mean something. It should mean some
level of
>> > > dedication to finish that task for that release. In short, unless
you
>> > > are
>> > > volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that release, please do
>> > > not
>> > > schedule it for that release.
>> > >
>> > > As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail and Andrea
>> > > involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I mention this is
>> > > that
>> > > Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these. So we will
>> > > find
>> > > a
>> > > time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I recommend that we
>> > > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
>> > >
>> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting Monday, so I would
>> > > like
>> > > to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am thinking 1pm my
>> > > time
>> > > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that work for you
>> > > after
>> > > Austin?
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> hibernate-dev mailing list
>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>
> _______________________________________________
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3:16 p.m.
Sometime after the next 5.0 release. You know, after I have time to
breathe :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
When will we start having these meetings?
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
> To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>
> +1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally as needed
>
> Sanne
>
> On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
> > Gail
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
> >> To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> >>
> >> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be involved.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "andrea boriero" <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> >> > To: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> >> > Cc: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> >> >
> >> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be good.
> >> >
> >> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how to best
> >> > > manage
> >> > > scheduling issues.
> >> > >
> >> > > We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly or
> >> > > every-other-week,
> >> > > to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great idea.
> >> > >
> >> > > One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just scheduling
issues
> >> > > as
> >> > > a
> >> > > means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an issue,
on a
> >> > > "real
> >> > > version" anyway, should mean something. It should mean
some
level of
> >> > > dedication to finish that task for that release. In short,
unless you
> >> > > are
> >> > > volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that release,
please do
> >> > > not
> >> > > schedule it for that release.
> >> > >
> >> > > As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail and
Andrea
> >> > > involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I mention
this is
> >> > > that
> >> > > Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these. So we
will
> >> > > find
> >> > > a
> >> > > time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I recommend
that we
> >> > > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
> >> > >
> >> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting Monday, so I
would
> >> > > like
> >> > > to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am thinking
1pm
my
> >> > > time
> >> > > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that work for
you
> >> > > after
> >> > > Austin?
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> _______________________________________________
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2:22 a.m.
Now that 5.0 development is settling down, I think its time to go ahead and
start on this. Should we start next week? We never discussed a day. I am
thinking Monday or Tuesday. Does that work for everyone interested?
Ultimately the idea is for this meeting to address incoming HHH issues.
But I realize the first few meetings might very well focus on past issues.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
Sometime after the next 5.0 release. You know, after I have time to
breathe :)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> When will we start having these meetings?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
> > To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> >
> > +1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally as needed
> >
> > Sanne
> >
> > On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
> > > Gail
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
> > >> To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> > >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> > >>
> > >> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be involved.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "andrea boriero" <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> > >> > To: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> > >> > Cc: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> > >> >
> > >> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be good.
> > >> >
> > >> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how to
best
> > >> > > manage
> > >> > > scheduling issues.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly or
> > >> > > every-other-week,
> > >> > > to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great idea.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just
scheduling
> issues
> > >> > > as
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an
issue,
> on a
> > >> > > "real
> > >> > > version" anyway, should mean something. It should mean
some
> level of
> > >> > > dedication to finish that task for that release. In short,
> unless you
> > >> > > are
> > >> > > volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that release,
> please do
> > >> > > not
> > >> > > schedule it for that release.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail and
> Andrea
> > >> > > involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I
mention
> this is
> > >> > > that
> > >> > > Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these. So
we
> will
> > >> > > find
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I
recommend
> that we
> > >> > > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting Monday, so
I
> would
> > >> > > like
> > >> > > to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am
thinking
> 1pm my
> > >> > > time
> > >> > > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that work
for
> you
> > >> > > after
> > >> > > Austin?
> > >> > > _______________________________________________
> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >> > >
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >> >
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >>
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > _______________________________________________
> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >
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>
7:06 p.m.
Next week is fine. Monday or Tuesday work for me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
To: "Gail Badner" <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>, "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:22:26 PM
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
Now that 5.0 development is settling down, I think its time to go ahead and
start on this. Should we start next week? We never discussed a day. I am
thinking Monday or Tuesday. Does that work for everyone interested?
Ultimately the idea is for this meeting to address incoming HHH issues.
But I realize the first few meetings might very well focus on past issues.
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
> Sometime after the next 5.0 release. You know, after I have time to
> breathe :)
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> When will we start having these meetings?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
>> > To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>> >
>> > +1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally as needed
>> >
>> > Sanne
>> >
>> > On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> > > 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
>> > > Gail
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
>> > >> To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> > >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>> > >>
>> > >> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be involved.
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "andrea boriero" <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
>> > >> > To: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> > >> > Cc: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
>> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage"
meeting
>> > >> >
>> > >> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be good.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week and how
to best
>> > >> > > manage
>> > >> > > scheduling issues.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > We both agreed that a team get together, either weekly
or
>> > >> > > every-other-week,
>> > >> > > to discuss new issues to triage them would be a great
idea.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > One thing I absolutely do not want happening is just
scheduling
>> issues
>> > >> > > as
>> > >> > > a
>> > >> > > means to come back and triage them later. Scheduling an
issue,
>> on a
>> > >> > > "real
>> > >> > > version" anyway, should mean something. It should
mean some
>> level of
>> > >> > > dedication to finish that task for that release. In
short,
>> unless you
>> > >> > > are
>> > >> > > volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that
release,
>> please do
>> > >> > > not
>> > >> > > schedule it for that release.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like Gail
and
>> Andrea
>> > >> > > involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason I
mention
>> this is
>> > >> > > that
>> > >> > > Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling these.
So we
>> will
>> > >> > > find
>> > >> > > a
>> > >> > > time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I
recommend
>> that we
>> > >> > > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting
Monday, so I
>> would
>> > >> > > like
>> > >> > > to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I am
thinking
>> 1pm my
>> > >> > > time
>> > >> > > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does that
work for
>> you
>> > >> > > after
>> > >> > > Austin?
>> > >> > > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >> >
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >>
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> hibernate-dev mailing list
>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>
>
>
7:32 p.m.
I have a problem on Monday but Tuesday is fine.
On 14 July 2015 at 18:06, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Next week is fine. Monday or Tuesday work for me.
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> To: "Gail Badner" <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
> Cc: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>,
"hibernate-dev" <
hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:22:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>
> Now that 5.0 development is settling down, I think its time to go ahead
and
> start on this. Should we start next week? We never discussed a day. I
am
> thinking Monday or Tuesday. Does that work for everyone interested?
>
> Ultimately the idea is for this meeting to address incoming HHH issues.
> But I realize the first few meetings might very well focus on past
issues.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
>
> > Sometime after the next 5.0 release. You know, after I have time to
> > breathe :)
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> When will we start having these meetings?
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
> >> > To: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> >> >
> >> > +1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally as needed
> >> >
> >> > Sanne
> >> >
> >> > On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> >> > > 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
> >> > > Gail
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
> >> > >> To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >> > >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage"
meeting
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be involved.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> > From: "andrea boriero"
<dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> >> > >> > To: "Steve Ebersole"
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
> >> > >> > Cc: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
> >> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage"
meeting
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should be
good.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole
<steve(a)hibernate.org
>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last week
and how to
best
> >> > >> > > manage
> >> > >> > > scheduling issues.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > We both agreed that a team get together, either
weekly or
> >> > >> > > every-other-week,
> >> > >> > > to discuss new issues to triage them would be a
great idea.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > One thing I absolutely do not want happening is
just
scheduling
> >> issues
> >> > >> > > as
> >> > >> > > a
> >> > >> > > means to come back and triage them later.
Scheduling an
issue,
> >> on a
> >> > >> > > "real
> >> > >> > > version" anyway, should mean something. It
should mean some
> >> level of
> >> > >> > > dedication to finish that task for that release.
In short,
> >> unless you
> >> > >> > > are
> >> > >> > > volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for that
release,
> >> please do
> >> > >> > > not
> >> > >> > > schedule it for that release.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > As for the triage meeting, I would definitely like
Gail and
> >> Andrea
> >> > >> > > involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The reason
I mention
> >> this is
> >> > >> > > that
> >> > >> > > Gail is usually left on early side of scheduling
these. So
we
> >> will
> >> > >> > > find
> >> > >> > > a
> >> > >> > > time that works best for us 3 and go from there. I
recommend
> >> that we
> >> > >> > > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days starting
Monday,
so I
> >> would
> >> > >> > > like
> >> > >> > > to start this triaging while he is here. Gail, I
am thinking
> >> 1pm my
> >> > >> > > time
> >> > >> > > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea, does
that work
for
> >> you
> >> > >> > > after
> >> > >> > > Austin?
> >> > >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> > >> > >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> > >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> > >>
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> hibernate-dev mailing list
> >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >>
> >
> >
>
_______________________________________________
hibernate-dev mailing list
hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
8:07 p.m.
Ok, then lets plan on next Tuesday on HiptChat...
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Hibernate+ORM+Tr...
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM andrea boriero <dreborier(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have a problem on Monday but Tuesday is fine.
On 14 July 2015 at 18:06, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> Next week is fine. Monday or Tuesday work for me.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> > To: "Gail Badner" <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>,
"hibernate-dev" <
> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:22:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> >
> > Now that 5.0 development is settling down, I think its time to go ahead
> and
> > start on this. Should we start next week? We never discussed a day.
> I am
> > thinking Monday or Tuesday. Does that work for everyone interested?
> >
> > Ultimately the idea is for this meeting to address incoming HHH issues.
> > But I realize the first few meetings might very well focus on past
> issues.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Sometime after the next 5.0 release. You know, after I have time to
> > > breathe :)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> When will we start having these meetings?
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
> > >> > To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> > >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> > >> >
> > >> > +1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally as
needed
> > >> >
> > >> > Sanne
> > >> >
> > >> > On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> > >> > > 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
> > >> > > Gail
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > >> From: "Brett Meyer" <brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
> > >> > >> To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> > >> > >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage"
meeting
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be
involved.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > >> > From: "andrea boriero"
<dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> > >> > >> > To: "Steve Ebersole"
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
> > >> > >> > Cc: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> > >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
> > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team
"triage" meeting
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it should
be good.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole <
> steve(a)hibernate.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last
week and how to
> best
> > >> > >> > > manage
> > >> > >> > > scheduling issues.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > We both agreed that a team get together, either
weekly or
> > >> > >> > > every-other-week,
> > >> > >> > > to discuss new issues to triage them would be a
great idea.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > One thing I absolutely do not want happening is
just
> scheduling
> > >> issues
> > >> > >> > > as
> > >> > >> > > a
> > >> > >> > > means to come back and triage them later.
Scheduling an
> issue,
> > >> on a
> > >> > >> > > "real
> > >> > >> > > version" anyway, should mean something.
It should mean some
> > >> level of
> > >> > >> > > dedication to finish that task for that
release. In short,
> > >> unless you
> > >> > >> > > are
> > >> > >> > > volunteering to take on a task *yourself* for
that release,
> > >> please do
> > >> > >> > > not
> > >> > >> > > schedule it for that release.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > As for the triage meeting, I would definitely
like Gail and
> > >> Andrea
> > >> > >> > > involved. Of course anyone is welcome. The
reason I
> mention
> > >> this is
> > >> > >> > > that
> > >> > >> > > Gail is usually left on early side of
scheduling these. So
> we
> > >> will
> > >> > >> > > find
> > >> > >> > > a
> > >> > >> > > time that works best for us 3 and go from
there. I
> recommend
> > >> that we
> > >> > >> > > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days
starting Monday,
> so I
> > >> would
> > >> > >> > > like
> > >> > >> > > to start this triaging while he is here. Gail,
I am
> thinking
> > >> 1pm my
> > >> > >> > > time
> > >> > >> > > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea,
does that work
> for
> > >> you
> > >> > >> > > after
> > >> > >> > > Austin?
> > >> > >> > >
_______________________________________________
> > >> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> > >> > >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> > >> >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >> > >>
> > >> > > _______________________________________________
> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >> >
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
4:52 p.m.
Does it make sense to have a dedicated meeting room? I wonder if the main
hibernate-orm room is too chatty; if the discussion would just immediately
get lost.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:07 PM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
Ok, then lets plan on next Tuesday on HiptChat...
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Hibernate+ORM+Tr...
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM andrea boriero <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have a problem on Monday but Tuesday is fine.
>
> On 14 July 2015 at 18:06, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Next week is fine. Monday or Tuesday work for me.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> > To: "Gail Badner" <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
>> > Cc: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>,
"hibernate-dev" <
>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:22:26 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>> >
>> > Now that 5.0 development is settling down, I think its time to go
>> ahead and
>> > start on this. Should we start next week? We never discussed a day.
>> I am
>> > thinking Monday or Tuesday. Does that work for everyone interested?
>> >
>> > Ultimately the idea is for this meeting to address incoming HHH issues.
>> > But I realize the first few meetings might very well focus on past
>> issues.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sometime after the next 5.0 release. You know, after I have time to
>> > > breathe :)
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Gail Badner
<gbadner(a)redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> When will we start having these meetings?
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > From: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
>> > >> > To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
>> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage"
meeting
>> > >> >
>> > >> > +1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally as
needed
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Sanne
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner
<gbadner(a)redhat.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >> > > 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
>> > >> > > Gail
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > >> From: "Brett Meyer"
<brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
>> > >> > >> To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> > >> > >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
>> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team
"triage" meeting
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to be
involved.
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> > >> > From: "andrea boriero"
<dreborier(a)gmail.com>
>> > >> > >> > To: "Steve Ebersole"
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> > >> > >> > Cc: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>> > >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
>> > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team
"triage" meeting
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it
should be good.
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole <
>> steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit last
week and how
>> to best
>> > >> > >> > > manage
>> > >> > >> > > scheduling issues.
>> > >> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> > > We both agreed that a team get together,
either weekly or
>> > >> > >> > > every-other-week,
>> > >> > >> > > to discuss new issues to triage them would
be a great idea.
>> > >> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> > > One thing I absolutely do not want
happening is just
>> scheduling
>> > >> issues
>> > >> > >> > > as
>> > >> > >> > > a
>> > >> > >> > > means to come back and triage them later.
Scheduling an
>> issue,
>> > >> on a
>> > >> > >> > > "real
>> > >> > >> > > version" anyway, should mean
something. It should mean
>> some
>> > >> level of
>> > >> > >> > > dedication to finish that task for that
release. In short,
>> > >> unless you
>> > >> > >> > > are
>> > >> > >> > > volunteering to take on a task *yourself*
for that release,
>> > >> please do
>> > >> > >> > > not
>> > >> > >> > > schedule it for that release.
>> > >> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> > > As for the triage meeting, I would
definitely like Gail and
>> > >> Andrea
>> > >> > >> > > involved. Of course anyone is welcome.
The reason I
>> mention
>> > >> this is
>> > >> > >> > > that
>> > >> > >> > > Gail is usually left on early side of
scheduling these.
>> So we
>> > >> will
>> > >> > >> > > find
>> > >> > >> > > a
>> > >> > >> > > time that works best for us 3 and go from
there. I
>> recommend
>> > >> that we
>> > >> > >> > > leverage HipChat for these discussion.
>> > >> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few days
starting Monday,
>> so I
>> > >> would
>> > >> > >> > > like
>> > >> > >> > > to start this triaging while he is here.
Gail, I am
>> thinking
>> > >> 1pm my
>> > >> > >> > > time
>> > >> > >> > > (11am yours) would be a good time. Andrea,
does that work
>> for
>> > >> you
>> > >> > >> > > after
>> > >> > >> > > Austin?
>> > >> > >> > >
_______________________________________________
>> > >> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> > >> > >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >> > >> > >
>> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> > >> >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> > >>
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >> > >>
>> > >> > > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >> > _______________________________________________
>> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >> >
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
>> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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+1 for a dedicated room
On 20 July 2015 at 15:52, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
Does it make sense to have a dedicated meeting room? I wonder if the
main
hibernate-orm room is too chatty; if the discussion would just immediately
get lost.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:07 PM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
> Ok, then lets plan on next Tuesday on HiptChat...
>
>
>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Hibernate+ORM+Tr...
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM andrea boriero <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a problem on Monday but Tuesday is fine.
>>
>> On 14 July 2015 at 18:06, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Next week is fine. Monday or Tuesday work for me.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
>>> > To: "Gail Badner" <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
>>> > Cc: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>,
"hibernate-dev" <
>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>>> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:22:26 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
>>> >
>>> > Now that 5.0 development is settling down, I think its time to go
>>> ahead and
>>> > start on this. Should we start next week? We never discussed a day.
>>> I am
>>> > thinking Monday or Tuesday. Does that work for everyone interested?
>>> >
>>> > Ultimately the idea is for this meeting to address incoming HHH
issues.
>>> > But I realize the first few meetings might very well focus on past
>>> issues.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM Steve Ebersole
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Sometime after the next 5.0 release. You know, after I have time
to
>>> > > breathe :)
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Gail Badner
<gbadner(a)redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> When will we start having these meetings?
>>> > >>
>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> > >> > From: "Sanne Grinovero"
<sanne(a)hibernate.org>
>>> > >> > To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>>> > >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
>>> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage"
meeting
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > +1 it's a nice time to allow me to join occasionally
as needed
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Sanne
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner
<gbadner(a)redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> > > 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
>>> > >> > > Gail
>>> > >> > >
>>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > >> > >> From: "Brett Meyer"
<brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
>>> > >> > >> To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>>> > >> > >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
>>> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team
"triage" meeting
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than happy to
be involved.
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> > >> > >> > From: "andrea boriero"
<dreborier(a)gmail.com>
>>> > >> > >> > To: "Steve Ebersole"
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
>>> > >> > >> > Cc: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
>>> > >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01 PM
>>> > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team
"triage" meeting
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm and it
should be good.
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve Ebersole
<
>>> steve(a)hibernate.org>
>>> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a little bit
last week and how
>>> to best
>>> > >> > >> > > manage
>>> > >> > >> > > scheduling issues.
>>> > >> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> > > We both agreed that a team get
together, either weekly or
>>> > >> > >> > > every-other-week,
>>> > >> > >> > > to discuss new issues to triage them
would be a great
idea.
>>> > >> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> > > One thing I absolutely do not want
happening is just
>>> scheduling
>>> > >> issues
>>> > >> > >> > > as
>>> > >> > >> > > a
>>> > >> > >> > > means to come back and triage them
later. Scheduling an
>>> issue,
>>> > >> on a
>>> > >> > >> > > "real
>>> > >> > >> > > version" anyway, should mean
something. It should mean
>>> some
>>> > >> level of
>>> > >> > >> > > dedication to finish that task for
that release. In
short,
>>> > >> unless you
>>> > >> > >> > > are
>>> > >> > >> > > volunteering to take on a task
*yourself* for that
release,
>>> > >> please do
>>> > >> > >> > > not
>>> > >> > >> > > schedule it for that release.
>>> > >> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> > > As for the triage meeting, I would
definitely like Gail
and
>>> > >> Andrea
>>> > >> > >> > > involved. Of course anyone is
welcome. The reason I
>>> mention
>>> > >> this is
>>> > >> > >> > > that
>>> > >> > >> > > Gail is usually left on early side of
scheduling these.
>>> So we
>>> > >> will
>>> > >> > >> > > find
>>> > >> > >> > > a
>>> > >> > >> > > time that works best for us 3 and go
from there. I
>>> recommend
>>> > >> that we
>>> > >> > >> > > leverage HipChat for these
discussion.
>>> > >> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a few
days starting
Monday,
>>> so I
>>> > >> would
>>> > >> > >> > > like
>>> > >> > >> > > to start this triaging while he is
here. Gail, I am
>>> thinking
>>> > >> 1pm my
>>> > >> > >> > > time
>>> > >> > >> > > (11am yours) would be a good time.
Andrea, does that
work
>>> for
>>> > >> you
>>> > >> > >> > > after
>>> > >> > >> > > Austin?
>>> > >> > >> > >
_______________________________________________
>>> > >> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
>>> > >> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> > >> > >> > >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>> > >> > >> > >
>>> > >> > >> >
_______________________________________________
>>> > >> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>>> > >> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> > >> > >> >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>> > >> > >> >
>>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________
>>> > >> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
>>> > >> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> > >> > >>
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>> > >> > >>
>>> > >> > > _______________________________________________
>>> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
>>> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> > >> > >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>> > >> > _______________________________________________
>>> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
>>> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> > >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> _______________________________________________
>>> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
>>> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
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11:07 p.m.
+1
----- Original Message -----
From: "andrea boriero" <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
To: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
Cc: "hibernate-dev" <hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 8:22:51 AM
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
+1 for a dedicated room
On 20 July 2015 at 15:52, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
> Does it make sense to have a dedicated meeting room? I wonder if the main
> hibernate-orm room is too chatty; if the discussion would just immediately
> get lost.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:07 PM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok, then lets plan on next Tuesday on HiptChat...
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Hibernate+ORM+Tr...
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:32 PM andrea boriero <dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I have a problem on Monday but Tuesday is fine.
> >>
> >> On 14 July 2015 at 18:06, Gail Badner <gbadner(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Next week is fine. Monday or Tuesday work for me.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "Steve Ebersole" <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> >>> > To: "Gail Badner" <gbadner(a)redhat.com>
> >>> > Cc: "Sanne Grinovero" <sanne(a)hibernate.org>,
"hibernate-dev" <
> >>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >>> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 5:22:26 PM
> >>> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team "triage" meeting
> >>> >
> >>> > Now that 5.0 development is settling down, I think its time to go
> >>> ahead and
> >>> > start on this. Should we start next week? We never discussed a
day.
> >>> I am
> >>> > thinking Monday or Tuesday. Does that work for everyone
interested?
> >>> >
> >>> > Ultimately the idea is for this meeting to address incoming HHH
> issues.
> >>> > But I realize the first few meetings might very well focus on
past
> >>> issues.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM Steve Ebersole
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Sometime after the next 5.0 release. You know, after I have
time
> to
> >>> > > breathe :)
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Gail Badner
<gbadner(a)redhat.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> When will we start having these meetings?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > >> > From: "Sanne Grinovero"
<sanne(a)hibernate.org>
> >>> > >> > To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >>> > >> > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 2:17:40 PM
> >>> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team
"triage" meeting
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > +1 it's a nice time to allow me to join
occasionally as needed
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > Sanne
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> > On 23 March 2015 at 19:10, Gail Badner
<gbadner(a)redhat.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >> > > 11am Seattle time would be ideal. Thanks!
> >>> > >> > > Gail
> >>> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > >> > >> From: "Brett Meyer"
<brmeyer(a)redhat.com>
> >>> > >> > >> To: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >>> > >> > >> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:51:49 AM
> >>> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team
"triage" meeting
> >>> > >> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> Big +1 from me -- I'd be more than
happy to be involved.
> >>> > >> > >>
> >>> > >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > >> > >> > From: "andrea boriero"
<dreborier(a)gmail.com>
> >>> > >> > >> > To: "Steve Ebersole"
<steve(a)hibernate.org>
> >>> > >> > >> > Cc: "hibernate-dev"
<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
> >>> > >> > >> > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 3:45:01
PM
> >>> > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] ORM Team
"triage" meeting
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > for me at the moment it would be 6pm
and it should be good.
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > On 21 March 2015 at 21:08, Steve
Ebersole <
> >>> steve(a)hibernate.org>
> >>> > >> wrote:
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >> > > Gail and I discussed Jira a
little bit last week and how
> >>> to best
> >>> > >> > >> > > manage
> >>> > >> > >> > > scheduling issues.
> >>> > >> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > We both agreed that a team get
together, either weekly or
> >>> > >> > >> > > every-other-week,
> >>> > >> > >> > > to discuss new issues to triage
them would be a great
> idea.
> >>> > >> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > One thing I absolutely do not
want happening is just
> >>> scheduling
> >>> > >> issues
> >>> > >> > >> > > as
> >>> > >> > >> > > a
> >>> > >> > >> > > means to come back and triage
them later. Scheduling an
> >>> issue,
> >>> > >> on a
> >>> > >> > >> > > "real
> >>> > >> > >> > > version" anyway, should mean
something. It should mean
> >>> some
> >>> > >> level of
> >>> > >> > >> > > dedication to finish that task
for that release. In
> short,
> >>> > >> unless you
> >>> > >> > >> > > are
> >>> > >> > >> > > volunteering to take on a task
*yourself* for that
> release,
> >>> > >> please do
> >>> > >> > >> > > not
> >>> > >> > >> > > schedule it for that release.
> >>> > >> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > As for the triage meeting, I
would definitely like Gail
> and
> >>> > >> Andrea
> >>> > >> > >> > > involved. Of course anyone is
welcome. The reason I
> >>> mention
> >>> > >> this is
> >>> > >> > >> > > that
> >>> > >> > >> > > Gail is usually left on early
side of scheduling these.
> >>> So we
> >>> > >> will
> >>> > >> > >> > > find
> >>> > >> > >> > > a
> >>> > >> > >> > > time that works best for us 3 and
go from there. I
> >>> recommend
> >>> > >> that we
> >>> > >> > >> > > leverage HipChat for these
discussion.
> >>> > >> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >> > > Andrea is coming to Austin for a
few days starting
> Monday,
> >>> so I
> >>> > >> would
> >>> > >> > >> > > like
> >>> > >> > >> > > to start this triaging while he
is here. Gail, I am
> >>> thinking
> >>> > >> 1pm my
> >>> > >> > >> > > time
> >>> > >> > >> > > (11am yours) would be a good
time. Andrea, does that
> work
> >>> for
> >>> > >> you
> >>> > >> > >> > > after
> >>> > >> > >> > > Austin?
> >>> > >> > >> > >
_______________________________________________
> >>> > >> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >>> > >> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >>> > >> > >> > >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >>> > >> > >> > >
> >>> > >> > >> >
_______________________________________________
> >>> > >> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >>> > >> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >>> > >> > >> >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >>> > >> > >> >
> >>> > >> > >>
_______________________________________________
> >>> > >> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
> >>> > >> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >>> > >> > >>
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >>> > >> > >>
> >>> > >> > >
_______________________________________________
> >>> > >> > > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >>> > >> > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >>> > >> > >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >>> > >> > _______________________________________________
> >>> > >> > hibernate-dev mailing list
> >>> > >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >>> > >> >
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >>> > >> >
> >>> > >> _______________________________________________
> >>> > >> hibernate-dev mailing list
> >>> > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >>> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
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> >>
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