Re: [jbosscache-dev] Updated to commons-logging 1.1.1 (for now...)

I'd rather go with JDK logging then. IIRC, jboss-logging can intercept JDK logging events and log to the preferred engine, and this means fewer jars and NO DIRECT dependency on a lousy logging jar! On 18 Aug 2008, at 18:47, Jason T. Greene wrote: > The last time this was discussed, the collective answer is that jboss > logging is the preferred wrapper framework, since we control its > destiny, but that the AS would add adapters for all popular > frameworks. For example, hibernate's decision *cough* mistake *cough* > lead to work on an sl4j adapter. > > JDK logging is also acceptable, since it's the standard one. > > Manik Surtani wrote: >> I think JGroups is the only one. I think we need to sort out some >> sort of logging standard for JBoss. Who wants to bell THAT cat, >> now? :-) >> On 18 Aug 2008, at 14:57, Bela Ban wrote: >>> I agree on the insanity of it all. Good that JGroups is not the only >>> dep which requires you to suck in commons-logging... :-) >>> >>> Manik Surtani wrote: >>>> It *is* commons logging. >>>> >>>> On 16 Aug 2008, at 09:12, Bela Ban wrote: >>>> >>>>> Actually, which logging library does JBossCache use today ? I >>>>> thought it was commons-logging... >>>>> >>>>> Jason T. Greene wrote: >>>>>> Manik Surtani wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> <SNIP /> >>>> >>>>>>> Hmm, another jar dep. We need commons logging anyway for JGroups. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately I already have to include JBoss Logging since AOP >>>>>> uses it. >>>> >>>> For chrissake. Why on earth is LOGGING of all things such a >>>> challenge? So this means using JBC with Hibernate will NOW need >>>> commons logging (JBC, JGroups), jboss logging (AOP) and slf4j >>>> (Hibernate), and all the while the JDK provides logging as well?!? >>>> This is insane. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Manik Surtani >>>> Lead, JBoss Cache >>>> manik(a)jboss.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bela Ban >>> Lead JGroups / Clustering Team >>> JBoss - a division of Red Hat >>> >> -- >> Manik Surtani >> Lead, JBoss Cache >> manik(a)jboss.org > > > -- > Jason T. Greene > JBoss, a division of Red Hat -- Manik Surtani Lead, JBoss Cache manik(a)jboss.org