Blurring the lines of jBPM and Drools
by keithnielsen
I have been researching both jBPM and Drools for sometime now and am
wondering what the future holds for jBPM. This is based on my research of
Drools 5, which is bringing what I would consider more BPM constructs into
the core engine, things such as Wait States, Human Tasks, etc. One of the
main things I don't see yet is the whole persistence and support of long
running processes. My question is will the trend with Drools continue,
eventually consuming jBPM?
I must say that my perception is that Drools is more active which makes me
wonder if I should go with Drools hoping that it builds out more BPM
features going forward.
Thanks
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14 years, 2 months
Decision Tree input?
by Wilson O Ojwang
All,
Is there something in the works to support Decision Tree Inputs in
addition to Decision Table?
Regards
Wilson
14 years, 5 months
Drools Roadmap - Planned Release 5.1 release date
by McDonald, Daniel
Hi,
I was wondering if there is a planned release date for Release 5.1?
Thank you,
Daniel McDonald
Fidelity National Information Services - Research & Development
Office phone: (972) 691-6593
Mobile phone (214) 697-8163
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14 years, 7 months
ANT Compile issues
by Bhamidi, Krishna
Hi,
I am using DROOLs 5.0.0 CR1 and use the compiler from Drools-Ant. When I attempt to execute the rules using a rule agent, I get an exception that in part reads
java.lang.NullPointerException
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readSerialData(ObjectInputStream.java:1820)
(Full stack follows this e-mail.) However, when I download the pkg file for the same ruleset from Guvnor and use it in the rule agent, it runs fine.
I use the following for building -
<taskdef name="compiler" classname="org.drools.contrib.DroolsCompilerAntTask" classpathref="compiler.classpath" />
<compiler srcdir="../${rulesDirectory}" tofile="../${buildDirectory}/${projectName}_rules.pkg"
classpath="../${buildDirectory}/${projectName}_rules.jar"
binformat="package">
<include name="*.drl" />
<include name="*.brl" />
<include name="*.xml" />
<include name="*.dslr" />
<include name="*.xls" />
</compiler>
What I should do to compile correctly?
Full Stack
java.lang.NullPointerException
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readSerialData(ObjectInputStream.java:1820)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readOrdinaryObject(ObjectInputStream.java:1719)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject0(ObjectInputStream.java:1305)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject(ObjectInputStream.java:348)
at org.drools.rule.DialectRuntimeRegistry.readExternal(DialectRuntimeRegistry.java:41)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readExternalData(ObjectInputStream.java:1755)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readOrdinaryObject(ObjectInputStream.java:1717)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject0(ObjectInputStream.java:1305)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject(ObjectInputStream.java:348)
at org.drools.rule.Package.readExternal(Package.java:197)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readExternalData(ObjectInputStream.java:1755)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readOrdinaryObject(ObjectInputStream.java:1717)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject0(ObjectInputStream.java:1305)
at java.io.ObjectInputStream.readObject(ObjectInputStream.java:348)
at org.drools.util.DroolsStreamUtils.streamIn(DroolsStreamUtils.java:189)
at org.drools.util.DroolsStreamUtils.streamIn(DroolsStreamUtils.java:158)
at org.drools.agent.FileScanner.readPackage(FileScanner.java:136)
at org.drools.agent.FileScanner.getChangeSet(FileScanner.java:82)
at org.drools.agent.FileScanner.loadPackageChanges(FileScanner.java:56)
at org.drools.agent.DirectoryScanner.loadPackageChanges(DirectoryScanner.java:69)
at org.drools.agent.RuleAgent.checkForChanges(RuleAgent.java:410)
at org.drools.agent.RuleAgent.refreshRuleBase(RuleAgent.java:362)
at org.drools.agent.RuleAgent.configure(RuleAgent.java:347)
at org.drools.agent.RuleAgent.init(RuleAgent.java:247)
at org.drools.agent.RuleAgent.newRuleAgent(RuleAgent.java:187)
at org.drools.agent.RuleAgent.newRuleAgent(RuleAgent.java:147)
14 years, 7 months
Performance of compiler
by Christian Nedregård
Hi.
My environment: Win XP SP3, 2x2.13 GHz cpu, 3GB RAM, Drools 4.0.7, JDK
1.4.2_11, java compiler: JANINO, dialect: java.
We have about 850 drl's with 5 - 10 conditions in each. 0 -2 evals in each.
The drl's only contain one rule each.
We are using Drools programatically by compiling the drls using
PackageBuilder.addPackageFromDrl and adding them to a RuleBase using
RuleBase.addPackage(PackageBuilder.getPackage())
When we are building our rule base we are never able to compile more than 1
-2 rules per second, which means we need over 10 minutes (at 100% cpu) to
build our rulebase.
Profiling shows 68% cpu time in
org.drools.rule.builder.GroupElementBuilder.build and 18% cpu time in
org.codehaus.janino.Compiler.compile.
We have experimented by changing the compiler to ECLIPSE and the dialect to
mvel but the results are the same.
We have experimented using one PackageBuilder instance per drl or grouping
drls by package and sharing a builder per package. Same result in both
scenarios.
We have also expermimented with compiling concurrently in serveral threads.
Again, about the same result.
My question is: Is this the performance we can expect from the compiler or
are we doing something fundamentally wrong?
Below is an example of one of our drls. This one contains no evals, but
still takes more than 1 second to compile. If anyone can spot some issues
with the way we are doing things the feedback would be much apreciated :)
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package domain.core.productoffer.rules.subscriptiontype
import type.productoffer.ProductOfferRuleEvent
import domain.core.subscription.Subscription
import domain.core.subscription.SubscribedService
import type.subscription.ActionTypeEnum
import domain.core.productoffer.ProductOffer
import domain.rules.RuleEvent
global domain.core.productoffer.RuleValidationReport validationResult
rule "RequiredVProducts"
when
ProductOfferRuleEvent(id == '3')
ProductOffer(id.value == 31963)
$subscription:Subscription()
not ( SubscribedService(status != ActionTypeEnum.REMOVE_CANCEL &&
productId.value in (57, 69) ) from
$subscription.getAllChildSubscribedServices())
then
validationResult.addValidationMessage("2069", "For product offer
rule event with id '3' and product offer with id=31963 subscription must
have one of the following VProducts: 57, 69.");
end
------------------------------------
Regards
Christian Nedregård
14 years, 9 months
Upgrade to Drools 5 - loss of performance
by Scott Reed
I just upgraded our app from Drools 4 to 5 libraries. We just use the
rules engine with DRL. The performance of the engine on our rulebase is
unacceptably slow. I assume there is something we need to do to our
rules or the way we are configuring the engine to fix this. I don't see
anything in the release notes about backwards compatibility issues. I
would very much appreciate it if someone would direct me to any
documentation that explains what needs to be done so our 4.0 rules
perform at least as well as they did before the upgrade?
Thanks,
Scott
14 years, 11 months
drl to pkg
by Perumaal Krishnaraj
Hello Everybody,
I'm a newbie to Drools, so please excuse me, if question is very
fundamental.
I'm not using drools with eclipse or brms.
I would like to convert the drl file which I had created using a text editor
to the binary form ie. in pkg format (serialized), which can be used im my
Java application.
Is there a tool, or a code snippet which gives me an idea as to how this is
done.
Regards,
kp
15 years
functions
by Chris Richmond
Ok.I am trying to build a function library in my .drl file and I added this
one test function
function String outputString(String sData){
return sData;
}
And no matter where I place this in my .drl file, I get an exception one way
or the other with compiling when I try instaniate and fire my rules. The
.drl file works exactly as expected if I remove this function declaration,
and when I *do* try to add it, I do not actually call it anywhere.but get
those errors.
So my question is, where exactly do I need to place function declarations..
Thanks,
Chris
15 years
Re: [rules-users] Need help related to collection of data accessing in rule file.
by prasad raju sagi
Hi ,
I am trying to create rule on a fact , which contains arraylist of collection and the object in the collection internally contains an arraylist of another collection of objects.
This looks like object A contains collection of objects B and B contains collection object C
A -> blist ( Arraylist<B> )
B -> clist (ArrayList<C> )
C-> dlist( ArrayList<D>)
D-> type ( string)
I am inseting A as fact to the working memory.
I am in confusion state like how to write the rule to place conditions on collection C.
Can I use from in the form of nested from in rule statment.
Thanks
Prasad Raju Sagi
Mobile: 847-644-4103
________________________________
From: Aziz Boxwala <boxwala(a)yahoo.com>
To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 1:58:28 PM
Subject: [rules-users] process order example not working fully
I am trying to execute a ruleflow and use rules to assign tasks within the ruleflow in Drools 5.0.1. I have a drl file included in my knowledge base that tries to assign a task to a user when a new human task is created. This is based on the example in org.drools.example.process.order. I can't get my code to work. I don't the rules in the example are working either (dslr for the task assignment or the drl for dynamic logging). After some attempts, I found that this condition
WorkItemNodeInstance()
does not evaluate to true ever.
Do I have to do anything special to make the WorkItemNodeInstance appear in working memory?
Thanks for any help.
--Aziz
15 years
Flow (human task) and web apps
by Rodrigo
Just a newbie question...
To use drools flow with human tasks in a Seam application for example, i
will need to start a mina server in another thread (and interact by a mina
client), like documentation suggest?
Anyone have a sample web app that use this approach, drools flow + human
task + webapps.
Thanks in advance.
Rodrigo Valério.
15 years, 1 month