Application Servers and Drools Flow???
by ramram
Hi All,
I am currently using the Drools Flow with the GWT web console and I could
create many rule flow processes using the JBOSS 4.2.3 version. But what I am
concerned about is that there will be problems if I changed the application
server? Please can you help me and tell me if the Drools Flow and GWT web
console are compatible with the following application servers:
1- OC4J
2- Bea Weblogic 9.0
3- IBM Websphere
4- Tomcat 6.0
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16 years, 6 months
Drools Fusion deadlock?
by Paul R.
Hi,
I'm having a problem in my project; inserting large quantities of facts into
a StatefulKnowledgeSession (stream mode) causes my code to hang after a few
minutes of activity. I've attached a simple test to demonstrate the problem;
when I run the attached code ~ 20 objects get inserted into the session, the
rule fires once and then hangs. No more facts get inserted and the rule
never fires again.
Is there anything obvious wrong with the attached code, or is it possible
that this is a bug in drools [drools-5.0.1]?
Thanks and regards,
Paul
16 years, 6 months
confusing world of drools
by tim arnold
hello, i think they have made so powerful that it is to abstract to understand.
following: all i would like to do is magage a large number of rules under a set of "rule sets"
each rule set can have many rules
each rule can belong to one or multiple sets
or a many to many relationship.
i expect for a given rule set id, that the corresponding rules to be executed. i dont see yet how this is done in drools under the current documentation.
thank you for any help
16 years, 6 months
Best approach for inserting facts into Drools
by Matias
Hi, this is my first time with Drools and I would really appreciate if
someone can give me some advice on the following:
Scenario:
* There is a list of objects 'A' which is updated periodically (initially
every 1 min.)
* In the meantime I would like to run a set of 40 rules on 'A' to modify a
second list 'B'.
* 'A' may contain more than a thousand objects (its size might grow up to a
few thousands or shrink on every update – i.e. its size is not constant on
each update).
My question to the list is: “What is the best approach I should follow to
insert facts into Drools, i.e. To populate and update the ksession data ?”
Please see my questions in more detail below as Q1, Q2 and Q3.
In other words, which one of the two following approaches is recommended ?
1) Insert every single item from 'A' and 'B' into the ksession.
Q1: For the objects that changed inside, Do I need to notify Drools ? If
I do, I guess I'll need a fact-handler for each item on the list.
2) Insert the lists 'A' and 'B' in the session
Q2: 'A' is actually a TreeMap<String, Object>. Would it be more
convenient to insert it as a list ?
Q3) In terms of performance, which of the 2 approaches above is the best –
or shall I definitely avoid one ?
Thanks,
Matias
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16 years, 6 months
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16 years, 6 months
Re: [rules-users] Event consuming policy
by Edson Tirelli
You are not using the configuration you created... you need to pass it as
a parameter to the factory:
KnowledgeBaseConfiguration config =
KnowledgeBaseFactory.newKnowledgeBaseConfiguration();
config.setOption(EventProcessingOption.STREAM);
KnowledgeBase kbase = KnowledgeBaseFactory.newKnowledgeBase(
config );
kbase.addKnowledgePackages(kbuilder.getKnowledgePackages());
As it is now, your are using CLOUD mode. Since you are not timestamping
events, the engine is using the system clock and your application should not
rely on the matching order. If you need a specific matching order, you need
to use one of the conflict resolution strategies (like salience).
Edson
2009/12/14 Khalil Hafsi <hafsi(a)fzi.de>
> Hi Edson,
>
> I am running in stream mode , I used this function
>
> config.setOption(EventProcessingOption.STREAM);
>
> to enable it.
>
> About the clock and time stamping I am not using anything special , this is
> the initiation part of my main :
>
>
> KnowledgeBuilder kbuilder =
> KnowledgeBuilderFactory.newKnowledgeBuilder();
> kbuilder.add(ResourceFactory.newClassPathResource("pol.drl"),
> ResourceType.DRL);
> if ( kbuilder.hasErrors() ) {
> System.err.println( kbuilder.getErrors().toString() );
> }
> KnowledgeBase kbase = KnowledgeBaseFactory.newKnowledgeBase();
> kbase.addKnowledgePackages(kbuilder.getKnowledgePackages());
>
>
> KnowledgeBaseConfiguration config =
> KnowledgeBaseFactory.newKnowledgeBaseConfiguration();
> config.setOption(EventProcessingOption.STREAM);
> StatefulKnowledgeSession ksession =
> kbase.newStatefulKnowledgeSession();
> WorkingMemoryEntryPoint mainS =
> ksession.getWorkingMemoryEntryPoint( "mainS" );
>
> Thank you,
> Khalil Hafsi
>
> Edson Tirelli wrote:
>
>
> Are you running in STREAM or CLOUD mode? What clock are you using? Are
> you timestamping the events or are you using the clock to timestamp them?
>
> Edson
>
> 2009/12/14 Khalil Hafsi <hafsi(a)fzi.de>
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I was working lately with drools fusion, we wanted to know what event
>> consumption policy was implemented.
>> We made the following simple rule :
>>
>> rule a
>>
>> when
>> $c1 : Event(symbol == 1 , $l1 :load) from entry-point "mainS"
>> and
>> $c2 : Event(this after $c1,symbol == 2,$l2 :load) from
>> entry-point "mainS"
>>
>> then
>> System.out.println("event1 "+$l1+" event2 "+$l2);
>>
>> end
>>
>> The event class has just symbol : int and load : int , load is used to
>> differentiate between different events that have the same symbol.
>>
>> and then we declared the following events into the stream using the
>> constructor Event(symbol,load): with mainS being a WorkingMemoryEntrypoint
>>
>> mainS.insert(new Event(1,10.0));
>> mainS.insert((new Event(1,20.0)));
>> mainS.insert((new Event(1,30.0)));
>> mainS.insert(new Event(2,80.0));
>> mainS.insert(new Event(2,90.0));
>>
>>
>> We have the following output :
>>
>> event1 30.0 event2 90.0
>> event1 20.0 event2 90.0
>> event1 10.0 event2 90.0
>> event1 10.0 event2 80.0
>>
>> So what is exactly the consumption policy used in DROOLS ? It seems that
>> is unrestricted for event 90.0 and chronological for event 80 .
>>
>> We have tested different situations and order of events and we always
>> came to the conclusion that for the first $c2 the policy is
>> chronological and for all the other $c2's it is unrestricted.
>>
>> Thank you for you time.
>> Khalil
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
>
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16 years, 6 months
Human Task Work Item
by Todd Pagni
>From the Mina client, how do you get a work item associated with a human
task?
I see the Task.getTaskData(), but I don't see any easy way to get the
work item as I need the work item inparameters from the mina client
side.
Thanks,
Todd
16 years, 6 months
Event consuming policy
by Khalil Hafsi
Hi Guys,
I was working lately with drools fusion, we wanted to know what event
consumption policy was implemented.
We made the following simple rule :
rule a
when
$c1 : Event(symbol == 1 , $l1 :load) from entry-point "mainS"
and
$c2 : Event(this after $c1,symbol == 2,$l2 :load) from
entry-point "mainS"
then
System.out.println("event1 "+$l1+" event2 "+$l2);
end
The event class has just symbol : int and load : int , load is used to
differentiate between different events that have the same symbol.
and then we declared the following events into the stream using the
constructor Event(symbol,load): with mainS being a WorkingMemoryEntrypoint
mainS.insert(new Event(1,10.0));
mainS.insert((new Event(1,20.0)));
mainS.insert((new Event(1,30.0)));
mainS.insert(new Event(2,80.0));
mainS.insert(new Event(2,90.0));
We have the following output :
event1 30.0 event2 90.0
event1 20.0 event2 90.0
event1 10.0 event2 90.0
event1 10.0 event2 80.0
So what is exactly the consumption policy used in DROOLS ? It seems that
is unrestricted for event 90.0 and chronological for event 80 .
We have tested different situations and order of events and we always
came to the conclusion that for the first $c2 the policy is
chronological and for all the other $c2's it is unrestricted.
Thank you for you time.
Khalil
16 years, 6 months
Is this overkill to use a rule engine?
by Will_Virtual
I have a new RCP application that allows users to maintain patient
demographics data via a UI form. It is a fairly deep object graph and data
of this model is pre loaded for every patient. I need to add the flexibility
for users to write rules via a UI tool and customize how and when they want
data in the model should be changed and control things in the UI form, such
as set focus, set required, enable/disable field, show message box ...etc.
They also want the ability to group and when to fire rules based on three
different levels such as form, dialog or field. They could build one or more
rules to the form or/and dialogs/fields in the form. They could set up to
fire rules at the open/close of the form or dialog or even when a value is
changed/lost focus on a field.
I’d like to have your opinions if this will fit well with Drool rule engine.
Is this a bit overkill for what I want to do? Has anyone used Drool for
something similar to this?
Thanks.
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16 years, 6 months
Server Sizing for Flow and Expert
by Bruce Campbell
I will be starting a new project soon and my middleware folks need to size a server for it. Does anyone have any input as to how they (middleware) can adjust their usual sizing exercise to account for the use of Flow and Expert? Here are some "facts" that may or may not be relevant...
We do not have any significant experience with Flow nor Expert
We will be using the "current" release of Drools as of January 4th 2010
Websphere in the middle, Oracle in the back
Our main Expert routine will run every 10 minutes and
will determine which of our 10-ish "flows" the work items will travel
may contain 500 - 1000 rules (guestimated by a noob)...
will process the rules once-through for each item in the batch (little or no rule interactions)
a batch would typically contain 10- 100 items to process..
but could contain up to 300 after a severe outage.
batch size could be controlled if necessary.
and will likely run on the same server as the "Flow" application...
Our internal web application will be primarily Flow driven with...
50-ish user, 35 concurrent
10 "flows" with simple to moderate complexity from a processing perspective, mainly human tasks. (much of the time someone will check a few boxes, add some comments, and the work item will flow to the next step/person.)
I'm hopeful someone can pipe in with how Flow and Expert change the typical sizing exercise, however, I appreciate any input you may have whether related to sizing or not..
thanks in advance
Bruce
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