Re: [rules-users] rules-users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 62

Hi, Could you please explain the use of XML and word docs uploaded , some examples ,can I refer these files in the rules which I write in Guvnor . Hi, When you upload files to Guvnor XML and .properties files are stored under XML, properties and everything else for example Word files or PDF files go to Other assets, documentation. Toni Nilima R wrote: Nilima From: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org Date: 02/23/2010 02:11 PM Subject: rules-users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 62 Sent by: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org Send rules-users mailing list submissions to rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org You can reach the person managing the list at rules-users-owner(a)lists.jboss.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of rules-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Dynamicc Declarative model in Guvnor (Nilima R) 2. Comparing Date with || OR operator (dhari) 3. Drools Guvnor (Nilima R) 4. Re: AGE problem (djb) 5. Re: Drools Guvnor (Toni Rikkola) 6. Re: AGE problem (Wolfgang Laun) 7. Natural Language (Amit Kumar) 8. Re: AGE problem (Pavel Tavoda) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:11:26 +0530 From: Nilima R <nilima.r(a)tcs.com&gt; Subject: [rules-users] Dynamicc Declarative model in Guvnor To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org Message-ID: <OFFE53C447.246EB602-ON652576D3.001EE694-652576D3.001F42AA(a)tcs.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi All, Can we have a dynamic declarative model build in Drools Guvnor. For example if I have certain tables in database say employee, company, address ,can we have a drop down for these tables so that end user can select any one one and based on that selection model in Guvnor is created. At present we specify the names of the model say employee and then add fields into it. say employee ID etc. Many Thanks, Nilima ____________________________________________ =====-----=====-----===== Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20100223/ffe4d37... ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:15:08 -0800 (PST) From: dhari <sdhari(a)hotmail.com&gt; Subject: [rules-users] Comparing Date with || OR operator To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org Message-ID: <1266905708400-347656.post(a)n3.nabble.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" The following code generates NPE in ReteTuple.java rule when Membership ( $regDate : regDate) Segment ( startDate < $regDate || startDate > endDate ) then System.err.print(?Invalid start date?); end I am new in Drools and don?t know much about DRL scripting. It works fine I use && operator instead. -- View this message in context: http://n3.nabble.com/Comparing-Date-with-OR-operator-tp347656p347656.html Sent from the Drools - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20100222/dc6db21... ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 11:48:19 +0530 From: Nilima R <nilima.r(a)tcs.com&gt; Subject: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org Message-ID: <OF0A3F231B.87AA84AC-ON652576D3.00226E0A-652576D3.0022A312(a)tcs.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Can you please explain the use of "XML,properties" and "Other assets ,documentation" links available in Guvnor. Thanks, Nilima =====-----=====-----===== Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20100223/52b2be4... ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:07:55 -0800 (PST) From: djb <dbrownell83(a)hotmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [rules-users] AGE problem To: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org Message-ID: <1266908875778-354847.post(a)n3.nabble.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think though that the majority of uses for a rules engine is in a business context, where they don't use astronomical time. If the doctor's orders are: "You cannot get out of bed for 2 months" This means 59 days if he told you February 1st, and it means 62 days if he told you July 1st. So at least for me, I am going to have to work out a plan that involves GregorianCalendar. -- View this message in context: http://n3.nabble.com/AGE-problem-tp215215p354847.html Sent from the Drools - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:07:21 +0200 From: Toni Rikkola <trikkola(a)redhat.com&gt; Subject: Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Message-ID: <4B837EA9.1070806(a)redhat.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, Could you explain the use of XML and word docs uploaded , some examples ,can I refer these files in the rules which i write in Guvnor . Hi, When you upload files to Guvnor XML and .properties files are stored under XML, properties and everything else for example Word files or PDF files go to Other assets, documentation. Toni Nilima R wrote: > Nilima > =====-----=====-----===== > Notice: The information contained in this e-mail > message and/or attachments to it may contain > confidential or privileged information. If you are > not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the > information contained in this e-mail message > and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If > you have received this communication in error, > please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and > immediately and permanently delete the message > and any attachments. Thank you > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:50:38 +0100 From: Wolfgang Laun <wolfgang.laun(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [rules-users] AGE problem To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Message-ID: <17de7ee81002222350h62ae932an3058353f68204e7f(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:07 AM, djb <dbrownell83(a)hotmail.com&gt; wrote: he This is a particularly bad example, because doctors can't say that - at least not one I'd trust ;-) I'm arguing that you cannot expect a computer program to relieve you from the burden of defining what you mean by a "duration of one year" (or month). Some legal rules require a person to have a certain age, and it is (for humans) more convenient to decide this on a person's birthday YMD plus an increment in the Y number. If your application requires you to use an increment in the year component of the YMDhms representation of a point in time, then you are indeed stuck with Calendar and the resulting overhead. (Memoizing the results of YMDhms +/- n years might speed things up, for the usual price.) But many applications would be satisfied with using a fixed duration for a year in terms of 365 or 365.25 or some such value. If, for instance, you have a library, and you must decide to move a book into deep storage "if it has not been requested for more than a year" you might calculate this (faster) by adding 356*24*60*60 to the clock value of the last return. -W So at least for me, I am going to have to work out a plan that involves -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20100223/3459eff... ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:21:38 -0800 From: Amit Kumar <amitkumar(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: [rules-users] Natural Language To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Message-ID: <33ab2d6e1002230021k249523efsfa8620157b0538f3(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi All, As you might have understood with my so many questions :) I am looking at the capabilities of Drools and our team is looking at a comparitive analysis between Drools and ILOG One of the feature which is greatly desired is natural language editor. So I am planning to create my own DSL creator "Poor man's version" which will introspect the class and generate some DSLs for our need. An old Blog http://blog.athico.com/2007/03/standards-based-approach-to-natural.html points to an interesting article. Does anybody knows where this item is in the roadmap. Another suggestion I had was on the Roles and Permissions for the users. There is a option in drools to permit access for a user to a package and category. It would be good to add Status to the mix so that the novide user is prevented from moving rules to production. Small change.. big gain :) Does anybody has a pointer to a demo of drools showing its capabilities. Or a comparitive analysis with ILOG. We are able to show lot of good use for the tool.. but the data model we have is causing us big headaches in writing easily understandable rules. The scenario is that we have a "lot" of attributes of a fact. And as part of model extension lot of attributes are constantly added to the fact. To make this easier so that we do not have to update the model - we have put a (key value pair) for the attributes. So the model structure is MainFact mainAttr1 String mainAttr2 String List additionalAttrs<AdditionalAttributes> = new ArrayList<AdditionalAttributes>(); AdditionalAttributes attrName String attrValue String So now in guided editor or DSl editor it becomes a nightmare to write a rule.. and our rule writers will beat us up if we ask them to write a rule like aa: AdditionalAttributes (attrName == "var1", val : attrValue) a: MainFact (mainAttr1 == "mainVal", additionalAttrs contains aa) Any easy solution for this :) Thanks, Amit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20100223/76ede08... ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:30:32 +0100 From: Pavel Tavoda <pavel.tavoda(a)gmail.com&gt; Subject: Re: [rules-users] AGE problem To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; Message-ID: <e3e2e4b61002230030n28669a78l72d4dffa68c4b765(a)mail.gmail.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Try to do this in bank application. People come 1 hour after they date expired and try to charge them for sooner withdrawal because you calculate with 365.25 not 365 days. You will be kicked, believe me. Pavel 2010/2/23 Wolfgang Laun <wolfgang.laun(a)gmail.com&gt;: he from month). increment in you return. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users End of rules-users Digest, Vol 39, Issue 62 ******************************************* =====-----=====-----===== Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. Thank you