3:35 p.m.
I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how working
memory is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that
has focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few objects
being inserted:
ksession.insert(objectA);
ksession.insert(objectB);
ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The first rule
simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if objectA
exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS
explicitly. However I want to use these defaults from different
agenda-groups, so when I put them in a function, the second rule never
fires, the activation is created for the first rule but never the second.
Can someone tell me why the use of a function seems to alter the truth of
the rule?
THIS WORKS:
declare SomeDefault
minValueA : Integer
minValueB : Double
maxValueB : Double
end
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 100
when
$a : ObjectA()
then
default = new SomeDefault()
default.minValueA = 100
default.minValueB = 20.0
default.maxValueB = 20000.0
insert(default)
end
rule "Use the defaults"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 100
when
$default : SomeDefault()
then
System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
end
THIS DOES NOT WORK:
declare SomeDefault
minValueA : Integer
minValueB : Double
maxValueB : Double
end
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 100
when
$a : ObjectA()
then
insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
end
rule "Use the defaults"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 90
when
$default : SomeDefault()
then
System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
end
function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
default.setMinValueA(100);
default.setMinValueB(20.0);
default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
workingMemory.insert(default);
}
In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and then
drools returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule.
However in the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am
guessing this is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in
understanding why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks.
MiKey
4:59 p.m.
Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
Probably that is part of your confusion.
2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how working
memory
is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that has
focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few objects being
inserted:
ksession.insert(objectA);
ksession.insert(objectB);
ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The first rule
simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if objectA
exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS explicitly.
However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups, so when
I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the activation is
created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone tell me why
the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
THIS WORKS:
declare SomeDefault
minValueA : Integer
minValueB : Double
maxValueB : Double
end
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 100
when
$a : ObjectA()
then
default = new SomeDefault()
default.minValueA = 100
default.minValueB = 20.0
default.maxValueB = 20000.0
insert(default)
end
rule "Use the defaults"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 100
when
$default : SomeDefault()
then
System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
end
THIS DOES NOT WORK:
declare SomeDefault
minValueA : Integer
minValueB : Double
maxValueB : Double
end
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 100
when
$a : ObjectA()
then
insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
end
rule "Use the defaults"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 90
when
$default : SomeDefault()
then
System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
end
function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
default.setMinValueA(100);
default.setMinValueB(20.0);
default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
workingMemory.insert(default);
}
In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and then drools
returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule. However in
the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am guessing this
is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in understanding
why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
MiKey
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5:13 p.m.
But what is funny for me - in rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
1) RHS = insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory()) - EXAMPLE IS NOT WORKING
2) RHS = drools.getWorkingMemory().insert(new SomeDefault()) - EXAMPLE IS
WORKING CORRECTLY
2011/12/29 Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
Probably that is part of your confusion.
2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
> I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how working
memory
> is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that has
> focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few objects
being
> inserted:
>
> ksession.insert(objectA);
> ksession.insert(objectB);
> ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
>
> I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The first
rule
> simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if objectA
> exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS
explicitly.
> However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups, so
when
> I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the activation is
> created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone tell me why
> the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
>
> THIS WORKS:
>
> declare SomeDefault
> minValueA : Integer
> minValueB : Double
> maxValueB : Double
> end
>
> rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
> agenda-group "Foo"
> salience 100
> when
> $a : ObjectA()
> then
> default = new SomeDefault()
> default.minValueA = 100
> default.minValueB = 20.0
> default.maxValueB = 20000.0
> insert(default)
> end
>
> rule "Use the defaults"
> agenda-group "Foo"
> salience 100
> when
> $default : SomeDefault()
> then
> System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
> end
>
> THIS DOES NOT WORK:
>
> declare SomeDefault
> minValueA : Integer
> minValueB : Double
> maxValueB : Double
> end
>
> rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
> agenda-group "Foo"
> salience 100
> when
> $a : ObjectA()
> then
> insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
> end
>
> rule "Use the defaults"
> agenda-group "Foo"
> salience 90
> when
> $default : SomeDefault()
> then
> System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
> end
>
> function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
> SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
> default.setMinValueA(100);
> default.setMinValueB(20.0);
> default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
> workingMemory.insert(default);
> }
>
> In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and then
drools
> returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule. However
in
> the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am guessing
this
> is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in understanding
> why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> MiKey
>
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5:24 p.m.
I guess that is exactly my confusion :) Why would it be that doing the
exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function and the
other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream rules not
to fire in the function call case? The rules are both in the same
agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS of the
rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.
It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a
*different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but the
downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.
Thanks for any clarity.
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>wrote:
Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
Probably that is part of your confusion.
2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
> I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how working
memory
> is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that has
> focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few objects
being
> inserted:
>
> ksession.insert(objectA);
> ksession.insert(objectB);
> ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
>
> I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The first
rule
> simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if objectA
> exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS
explicitly.
> However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups, so
when
> I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the activation is
> created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone tell me why
> the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
>
> THIS WORKS:
>
> declare SomeDefault
> minValueA : Integer
> minValueB : Double
> maxValueB : Double
> end
>
> rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
> agenda-group "Foo"
> salience 100
> when
> $a : ObjectA()
> then
> default = new SomeDefault()
> default.minValueA = 100
> default.minValueB = 20.0
> default.maxValueB = 20000.0
> insert(default)
> end
>
> rule "Use the defaults"
> agenda-group "Foo"
> salience 100
> when
> $default : SomeDefault()
> then
> System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
> end
>
> THIS DOES NOT WORK:
>
> declare SomeDefault
> minValueA : Integer
> minValueB : Double
> maxValueB : Double
> end
>
> rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
> agenda-group "Foo"
> salience 100
> when
> $a : ObjectA()
> then
> insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
> end
>
> rule "Use the defaults"
> agenda-group "Foo"
> salience 90
> when
> $default : SomeDefault()
> then
> System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
> end
>
> function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
> SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
> default.setMinValueA(100);
> default.setMinValueB(20.0);
> default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
> workingMemory.insert(default);
> }
>
> In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and then
drools
> returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule. However
in
> the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am guessing
this
> is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in understanding
> why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> MiKey
>
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5:30 p.m.
It's not the different WorkingMemory. It's all about class name confusion.
It looks like the class type does not match.
Please try to create SomeDefault in standard way, not with 'declare'
statement. It works ok.
2011/12/30 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>
I guess that is exactly my confusion :) Why would it be that doing
the
exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function and the
other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream rules not
to fire in the function call case? The rules are both in the same
agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS of the
rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.
It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a
*different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but the
downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.
Thanks for any clarity.
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
> Probably that is part of your confusion.
>
>
> 2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
> > I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how working
> memory
> > is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that has
> > focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few objects
> being
> > inserted:
> >
> > ksession.insert(objectA);
> > ksession.insert(objectB);
> > ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
> >
> > I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The first
> rule
> > simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if objectA
> > exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS
> explicitly.
> > However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups, so
> when
> > I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the activation is
> > created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone tell me
> why
> > the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
> >
> > THIS WORKS:
> >
> > declare SomeDefault
> > minValueA : Integer
> > minValueB : Double
> > maxValueB : Double
> > end
> >
> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
> > agenda-group "Foo"
> > salience 100
> > when
> > $a : ObjectA()
> > then
> > default = new SomeDefault()
> > default.minValueA = 100
> > default.minValueB = 20.0
> > default.maxValueB = 20000.0
> > insert(default)
> > end
> >
> > rule "Use the defaults"
> > agenda-group "Foo"
> > salience 100
> > when
> > $default : SomeDefault()
> > then
> > System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
> > end
> >
> > THIS DOES NOT WORK:
> >
> > declare SomeDefault
> > minValueA : Integer
> > minValueB : Double
> > maxValueB : Double
> > end
> >
> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
> > agenda-group "Foo"
> > salience 100
> > when
> > $a : ObjectA()
> > then
> > insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
> > end
> >
> > rule "Use the defaults"
> > agenda-group "Foo"
> > salience 90
> > when
> > $default : SomeDefault()
> > then
> > System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
> > end
> >
> > function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
> > SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
> > default.setMinValueA(100);
> > default.setMinValueB(20.0);
> > default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
> > workingMemory.insert(default);
> > }
> >
> > In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and then
> drools
> > returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule.
> However in
> > the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am guessing
> this
> > is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in
> understanding
> > why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > MiKey
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > rules-users mailing list
> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
> >
>
>
>
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5:36 p.m.
Of course it's only my guess. I'm not an expert. Please correct me if I'm
wrong :)
2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
It's not the different WorkingMemory. It's all about class
name confusion.
It looks like the class type does not match.
Please try to create SomeDefault in standard way, not with 'declare'
statement. It works ok.
2011/12/30 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>
> I guess that is exactly my confusion :) Why would it be that doing the
> exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function and the
> other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream rules not
> to fire in the function call case? The rules are both in the same
> agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS of the
> rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.
>
> It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a
> *different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but the
> downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.
>
> Thanks for any clarity.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
>> Probably that is part of your confusion.
>>
>>
>> 2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
>> > I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how working
>> memory
>> > is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that has
>> > focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few objects
>> being
>> > inserted:
>> >
>> > ksession.insert(objectA);
>> > ksession.insert(objectB);
>> > ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
>> >
>> > I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The first
>> rule
>> > simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if objectA
>> > exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS
>> explicitly.
>> > However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups, so
>> when
>> > I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the activation
>> is
>> > created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone tell me
>> why
>> > the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
>> >
>> > THIS WORKS:
>> >
>> > declare SomeDefault
>> > minValueA : Integer
>> > minValueB : Double
>> > maxValueB : Double
>> > end
>> >
>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>> > salience 100
>> > when
>> > $a : ObjectA()
>> > then
>> > default = new SomeDefault()
>> > default.minValueA = 100
>> > default.minValueB = 20.0
>> > default.maxValueB = 20000.0
>> > insert(default)
>> > end
>> >
>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>> > salience 100
>> > when
>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>> > then
>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
>> > end
>> >
>> > THIS DOES NOT WORK:
>> >
>> > declare SomeDefault
>> > minValueA : Integer
>> > minValueB : Double
>> > maxValueB : Double
>> > end
>> >
>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>> > salience 100
>> > when
>> > $a : ObjectA()
>> > then
>> > insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
>> > end
>> >
>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>> > salience 90
>> > when
>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>> > then
>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
>> > end
>> >
>> > function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
>> > SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
>> > default.setMinValueA(100);
>> > default.setMinValueB(20.0);
>> > default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
>> > workingMemory.insert(default);
>> > }
>> >
>> > In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and then
>> drools
>> > returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule.
>> However in
>> > the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am guessing
>> this
>> > is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in
>> understanding
>> > why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > MiKey
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > rules-users mailing list
>> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jugargentina.org
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>>
>> - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>>
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6:37 p.m.
I did some debbuging with 'declare SomeDefault'. This is what I found:
CASE1: RHS = drools.getWorkingMemory().insert(new SomeDefaultX())
Working memory objects:
Object[fact
0:2:2082419441:2082419441:2:DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefaultX@7c1f32f1]
Object[fact 0:1:140683595:140683595:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@862a94b]
CASE2: RHS = insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
Working memory objects:
Object[fact 0:2:176338845:1:2:DEFAULT:SomeDefault( minValueA=100,
minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )]
Object[fact 0:1:1125048577:1125048577:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@430ee101]
Please note the difference between DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefault and
DEFAULT:SomeDefault.
So when inserting an object to WorkingMemory inside function insertDefault
which is declared in DRL file
something strange is going on... It seems like it is a bug. It is worth
mentioning that I get following result
inside insertDefault:
System.out.println(SomeDefault.class.getName());
---> com.sample.SomeDefault
Hope it will help :)
2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
Of course it's only my guess. I'm not an expert. Please
correct me if I'm
wrong :)
2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
> It's not the different WorkingMemory. It's all about class name
> confusion. It looks like the class type does not match.
> Please try to create SomeDefault in standard way, not with 'declare'
> statement. It works ok.
>
>
> 2011/12/30 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>
>
>> I guess that is exactly my confusion :) Why would it be that doing the
>> exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function and the
>> other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream rules not
>> to fire in the function call case? The rules are both in the same
>> agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS of the
>> rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.
>>
>> It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a
>> *different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but the
>> downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.
>>
>> Thanks for any clarity.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino
<salaboy(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
>>> Probably that is part of your confusion.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
>>> > I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how working
>>> memory
>>> > is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that
>>> has
>>> > focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few objects
>>> being
>>> > inserted:
>>> >
>>> > ksession.insert(objectA);
>>> > ksession.insert(objectB);
>>> > ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
>>> >
>>> > I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The first
>>> rule
>>> > simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if
>>> objectA
>>> > exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS
>>> explicitly.
>>> > However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups,
>>> so when
>>> > I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the activation
>>> is
>>> > created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone tell me
>>> why
>>> > the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
>>> >
>>> > THIS WORKS:
>>> >
>>> > declare SomeDefault
>>> > minValueA : Integer
>>> > minValueB : Double
>>> > maxValueB : Double
>>> > end
>>> >
>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>> > salience 100
>>> > when
>>> > $a : ObjectA()
>>> > then
>>> > default = new SomeDefault()
>>> > default.minValueA = 100
>>> > default.minValueB = 20.0
>>> > default.maxValueB = 20000.0
>>> > insert(default)
>>> > end
>>> >
>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>> > salience 100
>>> > when
>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>>> > then
>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
>>> > end
>>> >
>>> > THIS DOES NOT WORK:
>>> >
>>> > declare SomeDefault
>>> > minValueA : Integer
>>> > minValueB : Double
>>> > maxValueB : Double
>>> > end
>>> >
>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>> > salience 100
>>> > when
>>> > $a : ObjectA()
>>> > then
>>> > insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
>>> > end
>>> >
>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>> > salience 90
>>> > when
>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>>> > then
>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
>>> > end
>>> >
>>> > function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
>>> > SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
>>> > default.setMinValueA(100);
>>> > default.setMinValueB(20.0);
>>> > default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
>>> > workingMemory.insert(default);
>>> > }
>>> >
>>> > In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and then
>>> drools
>>> > returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule.
>>> However in
>>> > the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am guessing
>>> this
>>> > is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in
>>> understanding
>>> > why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly appreciated.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > MiKey
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > rules-users mailing list
>>> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jugargentina.org
>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>>>
>>> - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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>
6:46 p.m.
One is SomeDefault and the other one is SomeDefaultX.
The Declared type, as far as I remember overrides the to string with
the representation that you are seeing there:
SomeDefault( minValueA=100, minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )
What is SomeDefaultX??
Cheers
2011/12/29 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>:
I did some debbuging with 'declare SomeDefault'. This is what
I found:
CASE1: RHS = drools.getWorkingMemory().insert(new SomeDefaultX())
Working memory objects:
Object[fact
0:2:2082419441:2082419441:2:DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefaultX@7c1f32f1]
Object[fact 0:1:140683595:140683595:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@862a94b]
CASE2: RHS = insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
Working memory objects:
Object[fact 0:2:176338845:1:2:DEFAULT:SomeDefault( minValueA=100,
minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )]
Object[fact 0:1:1125048577:1125048577:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@430ee101]
Please note the difference between DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefault and
DEFAULT:SomeDefault.
So when inserting an object to WorkingMemory inside function insertDefault
which is declared in DRL file
something strange is going on... It seems like it is a bug. It is worth
mentioning that I get following result
inside insertDefault:
System.out.println(SomeDefault.class.getName());
---> com.sample.SomeDefault
Hope it will help :)
2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
>
> Of course it's only my guess. I'm not an expert. Please correct me if
I'm
> wrong :)
>
>
> 2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
>>
>> It's not the different WorkingMemory. It's all about class name
>> confusion. It looks like the class type does not match.
>> Please try to create SomeDefault in standard way, not with 'declare'
>> statement. It works ok.
>>
>>
>> 2011/12/30 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>
>>>
>>> I guess that is exactly my confusion :) Why would it be that doing the
>>> exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function and the
>>> other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream rules not
>>> to fire in the function call case? The rules are both in the same
>>> agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS of the
>>> rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.
>>>
>>> It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a
>>> *different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but the
>>> downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any clarity.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
>>>> Probably that is part of your confusion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
>>>> > I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how
working
>>>> > memory
>>>> > is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that
>>>> > has
>>>> > focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few
objects
>>>> > being
>>>> > inserted:
>>>> >
>>>> > ksession.insert(objectA);
>>>> > ksession.insert(objectB);
>>>> > ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
>>>> >
>>>> > I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The
first
>>>> > rule
>>>> > simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if
>>>> > objectA
>>>> > exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS
>>>> > explicitly.
>>>> > However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups,
>>>> > so when
>>>> > I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the
activation
>>>> > is
>>>> > created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone tell
me
>>>> > why
>>>> > the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
>>>> >
>>>> > THIS WORKS:
>>>> >
>>>> > declare SomeDefault
>>>> > minValueA : Integer
>>>> > minValueB : Double
>>>> > maxValueB : Double
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>> > salience 100
>>>> > when
>>>> > $a : ObjectA()
>>>> > then
>>>> > default = new SomeDefault()
>>>> > default.minValueA = 100
>>>> > default.minValueB = 20.0
>>>> > default.maxValueB = 20000.0
>>>> > insert(default)
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>> > salience 100
>>>> > when
>>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>>>> > then
>>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" +
$default.minValueA)
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > THIS DOES NOT WORK:
>>>> >
>>>> > declare SomeDefault
>>>> > minValueA : Integer
>>>> > minValueB : Double
>>>> > maxValueB : Double
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>> > salience 100
>>>> > when
>>>> > $a : ObjectA()
>>>> > then
>>>> > insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>> > salience 90
>>>> > when
>>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>>>> > then
>>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" +
$default.minValueA)
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
>>>> > SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
>>>> > default.setMinValueA(100);
>>>> > default.setMinValueB(20.0);
>>>> > default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
>>>> > workingMemory.insert(default);
>>>> > }
>>>> >
>>>> > In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and
then
>>>> > drools
>>>> > returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule.
>>>> > However in
>>>> > the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am
guessing
>>>> > this
>>>> > is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in
>>>> > understanding
>>>> > why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly
appreciated.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > MiKey
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > rules-users mailing list
>>>> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
>>>> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jugargentina.org
>>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>>>>
>>>> - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> rules-users mailing list
>>>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>>>
>>>
>>>
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7:12 p.m.
I agree - my mistake, Because of tests I've forgotten to delete 'X'... So
it's not the case... Sorry...
But did another try and when I've used
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
dialect "mvel"
It was not working correctly. Then I moved to:
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
dialect "java"
and it works fine. So it is ok if we will change Mike's 'NOT WORKING'
example to:
--------------------------------------------------
package com.sample
import com.sample.ObjectA
import org.drools.WorkingMemory
function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
SomeDefault someDefault = new SomeDefault();
someDefault.setMinValueA(100);
someDefault.setMinValueB(20.0);
someDefault.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
workingMemory.insert(someDefault);
}
declare SomeDefault
minValueA : Integer
minValueB : Double
maxValueB : Double
end
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
dialect "java"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 100
when
$a : ObjectA()
then
insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory());
end
rule "Use the defaults"
dialect "mvel"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 90
when
$default : SomeDefault()
then
System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
end
--------------------------------------------------
Any ideas why?
2011/12/30 Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
One is SomeDefault and the other one is SomeDefaultX.
The Declared type, as far as I remember overrides the to string with
the representation that you are seeing there:
SomeDefault( minValueA=100, minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )
What is SomeDefaultX??
Cheers
2011/12/29 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>:
> I did some debbuging with 'declare SomeDefault'. This is what I found:
>
> CASE1: RHS = drools.getWorkingMemory().insert(new SomeDefaultX())
> Working memory objects:
> Object[fact
> 0:2:2082419441:2082419441:2:DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefaultX@7c1f32f1]
> Object[fact 0:1:140683595:140683595:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@862a94b
]
>
> CASE2: RHS = insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
> Working memory objects:
> Object[fact 0:2:176338845:1:2:DEFAULT:SomeDefault( minValueA=100,
> minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )]
> Object[fact
0:1:1125048577:1125048577:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@430ee101]
>
> Please note the difference between DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefault and
> DEFAULT:SomeDefault.
> So when inserting an object to WorkingMemory inside function
insertDefault
> which is declared in DRL file
> something strange is going on... It seems like it is a bug. It is worth
> mentioning that I get following result
> inside insertDefault:
> System.out.println(SomeDefault.class.getName());
> ---> com.sample.SomeDefault
>
> Hope it will help :)
>
>
>
>
> 2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
>>
>> Of course it's only my guess. I'm not an expert. Please correct me if
I'm
>> wrong :)
>>
>>
>> 2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
>>>
>>> It's not the different WorkingMemory. It's all about class name
>>> confusion. It looks like the class type does not match.
>>> Please try to create SomeDefault in standard way, not with
'declare'
>>> statement. It works ok.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/12/30 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>
>>>>
>>>> I guess that is exactly my confusion :) Why would it be that doing
the
>>>> exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function
and the
>>>> other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream
rules not
>>>> to fire in the function call case? The rules are both in the same
>>>> agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS
of the
>>>> rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.
>>>>
>>>> It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a
>>>> *different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but the
>>>> downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any clarity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino
<salaboy(a)gmail.com
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
>>>>> Probably that is part of your confusion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
>>>>> > I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how
working
>>>>> > memory
>>>>> > is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group
that
>>>>> > has
>>>>> > focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few
objects
>>>>> > being
>>>>> > inserted:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ksession.insert(objectA);
>>>>> > ksession.insert(objectB);
>>>>> >
ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion.
The
first
>>>>> > rule
>>>>> > simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule
if
>>>>> > objectA
>>>>> > exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the
RHS
>>>>> > explicitly.
>>>>> > However I want to use these defaults from different
agenda-groups,
>>>>> > so when
>>>>> > I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the
activation
>>>>> > is
>>>>> > created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone
tell
me
>>>>> > why
>>>>> > the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > THIS WORKS:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > declare SomeDefault
>>>>> > minValueA : Integer
>>>>> > minValueB : Double
>>>>> > maxValueB : Double
>>>>> > end
>>>>> >
>>>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>>> > salience 100
>>>>> > when
>>>>> > $a : ObjectA()
>>>>> > then
>>>>> > default = new SomeDefault()
>>>>> > default.minValueA = 100
>>>>> > default.minValueB = 20.0
>>>>> > default.maxValueB = 20000.0
>>>>> > insert(default)
>>>>> > end
>>>>> >
>>>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>>> > salience 100
>>>>> > when
>>>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>>>>> > then
>>>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" +
$default.minValueA)
>>>>> > end
>>>>> >
>>>>> > THIS DOES NOT WORK:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > declare SomeDefault
>>>>> > minValueA : Integer
>>>>> > minValueB : Double
>>>>> > maxValueB : Double
>>>>> > end
>>>>> >
>>>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>>> > salience 100
>>>>> > when
>>>>> > $a : ObjectA()
>>>>> > then
>>>>> > insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
>>>>> > end
>>>>> >
>>>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>>> > salience 90
>>>>> > when
>>>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>>>>> > then
>>>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" +
$default.minValueA)
>>>>> > end
>>>>> >
>>>>> > function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
>>>>> > SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
>>>>> > default.setMinValueA(100);
>>>>> > default.setMinValueB(20.0);
>>>>> > default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
>>>>> > workingMemory.insert(default);
>>>>> > }
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates
and
then
>>>>> > drools
>>>>> > returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second
rule.
>>>>> > However in
>>>>> > the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am
guessing
>>>>> > this
>>>>> > is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in
>>>>> > understanding
>>>>> > why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly
appreciated.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > MiKey
>>>>> >
>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>>> > rules-users mailing list
>>>>> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> - CTO @ http://www.plugtree.com
>>>>> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>>>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jugargentina.org
>>>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>>>>>
>>>>> - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> rules-users mailing list
>>>>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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3:10 a.m.
This is a bug. Please submit a JIRA.
In spite of all the fixes that have been made, using dialect "mvel" is
still risky.
In this case, it would appear that the WM insert from inside the called
function is somehow hidden from the Engine due to the RHS being evaluated
in a MVEL context. You can easily verify this by adding another rule:
rule "objects"
## agenda-group "Foo" (not
when
$object: Object()
then
System.out.println( "Fact: " + $object.getClass() + " " + $object);
end
-W
2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
I agree - my mistake, Because of tests I've forgotten to delete
'X'... So
it's not the case... Sorry...
But did another try and when I've used
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
dialect "mvel"
It was not working correctly. Then I moved to:
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
dialect "java"
and it works fine. So it is ok if we will change Mike's 'NOT WORKING'
example to:
--------------------------------------------------
package com.sample
import com.sample.ObjectA
import org.drools.WorkingMemory
function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
SomeDefault someDefault = new SomeDefault();
someDefault.setMinValueA(100);
someDefault.setMinValueB(20.0);
someDefault.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
workingMemory.insert(someDefault);
}
declare SomeDefault
minValueA : Integer
minValueB : Double
maxValueB : Double
end
rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
dialect "java"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 100
when
$a : ObjectA()
then
insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory());
end
rule "Use the defaults"
dialect "mvel"
agenda-group "Foo"
salience 90
when
$default : SomeDefault()
then
System.out.println("Default minA=" + $default.minValueA)
end
--------------------------------------------------
Any ideas why?
2011/12/30 Mauricio Salatino <salaboy(a)gmail.com>
> One is SomeDefault and the other one is SomeDefaultX.
> The Declared type, as far as I remember overrides the to string with
> the representation that you are seeing there:
> SomeDefault( minValueA=100, minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )
> What is SomeDefaultX??
> Cheers
> 2011/12/29 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>:
> > I did some debbuging with 'declare SomeDefault'. This is what I found:
> >
> > CASE1: RHS = drools.getWorkingMemory().insert(new SomeDefaultX())
> > Working memory objects:
> > Object[fact
> > 0:2:2082419441:2082419441:2:DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefaultX@7c1f32f1]
> > Object[fact 0:1:140683595:140683595:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@862a94b
> ]
> >
> > CASE2: RHS = insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
> > Working memory objects:
> > Object[fact 0:2:176338845:1:2:DEFAULT:SomeDefault( minValueA=100,
> > minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )]
> > Object[fact
> 0:1:1125048577:1125048577:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@430ee101]
> >
> > Please note the difference between DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefault and
> > DEFAULT:SomeDefault.
> > So when inserting an object to WorkingMemory inside function
> insertDefault
> > which is declared in DRL file
> > something strange is going on... It seems like it is a bug. It is worth
> > mentioning that I get following result
> > inside insertDefault:
> > System.out.println(SomeDefault.class.getName());
> > ---> com.sample.SomeDefault
> >
> > Hope it will help :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
> >>
> >> Of course it's only my guess. I'm not an expert. Please correct me
if
> I'm
> >> wrong :)
> >>
> >>
> >> 2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>> It's not the different WorkingMemory. It's all about class name
> >>> confusion. It looks like the class type does not match.
> >>> Please try to create SomeDefault in standard way, not with
'declare'
> >>> statement. It works ok.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2011/12/30 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess that is exactly my confusion :) Why would it be that doing
> the
> >>>> exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function
> and the
> >>>> other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream
> rules not
> >>>> to fire in the function call case? The rules are both in the same
> >>>> agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS
> of the
> >>>> rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.
> >>>>
> >>>> It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a
> >>>> *different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but
the
> >>>> downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for any clarity.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino <
> salaboy(a)gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
> >>>>> Probably that is part of your confusion.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
> >>>>> > I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand
how
> working
> >>>>> > memory
> >>>>> > is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an
agenda-group
> that
> >>>>> > has
> >>>>> > focus set immediately from the session as follows with a
few
> objects
> >>>>> > being
> >>>>> > inserted:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > ksession.insert(objectA);
> >>>>> > ksession.insert(objectB);
> >>>>> >
ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion.
The
> first
> >>>>> > rule
> >>>>> > simply sets some default values evaluated in the second
rule if
> >>>>> > objectA
> >>>>> > exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in
the RHS
> >>>>> > explicitly.
> >>>>> > However I want to use these defaults from different
> agenda-groups,
> >>>>> > so when
> >>>>> > I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the
> activation
> >>>>> > is
> >>>>> > created for the first rule but never the second. Can
someone
> tell me
> >>>>> > why
> >>>>> > the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the
rule?
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > THIS WORKS:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > declare SomeDefault
> >>>>> > minValueA : Integer
> >>>>> > minValueB : Double
> >>>>> > maxValueB : Double
> >>>>> > end
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
> >>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
> >>>>> > salience 100
> >>>>> > when
> >>>>> > $a : ObjectA()
> >>>>> > then
> >>>>> > default = new SomeDefault()
> >>>>> > default.minValueA = 100
> >>>>> > default.minValueB = 20.0
> >>>>> > default.maxValueB = 20000.0
> >>>>> > insert(default)
> >>>>> > end
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
> >>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
> >>>>> > salience 100
> >>>>> > when
> >>>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
> >>>>> > then
> >>>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" +
$default.minValueA)
> >>>>> > end
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > THIS DOES NOT WORK:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > declare SomeDefault
> >>>>> > minValueA : Integer
> >>>>> > minValueB : Double
> >>>>> > maxValueB : Double
> >>>>> > end
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
> >>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
> >>>>> > salience 100
> >>>>> > when
> >>>>> > $a : ObjectA()
> >>>>> > then
> >>>>> > insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
> >>>>> > end
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
> >>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
> >>>>> > salience 90
> >>>>> > when
> >>>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
> >>>>> > then
> >>>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" +
$default.minValueA)
> >>>>> > end
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
> >>>>> > SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
> >>>>> > default.setMinValueA(100);
> >>>>> > default.setMinValueB(20.0);
> >>>>> > default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
> >>>>> > workingMemory.insert(default);
> >>>>> > }
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > In the latter (non-working) example the first rule
activates and
> then
> >>>>> > drools
> >>>>> > returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second
rule.
> >>>>> > However in
> >>>>> > the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I
am
> guessing
> >>>>> > this
> >>>>> > is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance
in
> >>>>> > understanding
> >>>>> > why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly
appreciated.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Thanks.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > MiKey
> >>>>> >
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Thanks everyone for the responses. Maciej I did in fact try declaring the
class within a package and saw similar oddities. Thanks for the excellent
assistance.
Wolfgang, I have filed JIRA JBRULES-3322 for this issue.
https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBRULES-3322
Thanks again for the assistance everyone.
2011/12/29 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
I did some debbuging with 'declare SomeDefault'. This is what
I found:
CASE1: RHS = drools.getWorkingMemory().insert(new SomeDefaultX())
Working memory objects:
Object[fact 0:2:2082419441:2082419441
:2:DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefaultX@7c1f32f1]
Object[fact 0:1:140683595:140683595:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@862a94b]
CASE2: RHS = insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
Working memory objects:
Object[fact 0:2:176338845:1:2:DEFAULT:SomeDefault( minValueA=100,
minValueB=20.0, maxValueB=20000.0 )]
Object[fact 0:1:1125048577:1125048577:1:DEFAULT:com.sample.ObjectA@430ee101
]
Please note the difference between DEFAULT:com.sample.SomeDefault and
DEFAULT:SomeDefault.
So when inserting an object to WorkingMemory inside function insertDefault
which is declared in DRL file
something strange is going on... It seems like it is a bug. It is worth
mentioning that I get following result
inside insertDefault:
System.out.println(SomeDefault.class.getName());
---> com.sample.SomeDefault
Hope it will help :)
2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
> Of course it's only my guess. I'm not an expert. Please correct me if
I'm
> wrong :)
>
>
> 2011/12/30 Maciej Gowin <maciej.abacus.gowin(a)gmail.com>
>
>> It's not the different WorkingMemory. It's all about class name
>> confusion. It looks like the class type does not match.
>> Please try to create SomeDefault in standard way, not with 'declare'
>> statement. It works ok.
>>
>>
>> 2011/12/30 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>
>>
>>> I guess that is exactly my confusion :) Why would it be that doing the
>>> exact same thing, one inserting into working memory from a function and the
>>> other simply doing it within the RHS of the rule cause downstream rules not
>>> to fire in the function call case? The rules are both in the same
>>> agenda-group, both the function example and the insert from the RHS of the
>>> rule example are simply inserting a new fact into working memory.
>>>
>>> It makes it seem like the function call is somehow inserting into a
>>> *different* working memory, which I'm sure is not the case, but the
>>> downstream rule does not fire none-the-less.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any clarity.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Mauricio Salatino
<salaboy(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agenda-groups segment the agenda and not the working memory :)
>>>> Probably that is part of your confusion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2011/12/29 Mike Key <mikey(a)zenbitz.com>:
>>>> > I am a fairly new Drools user and am trying to understand how
>>>> working memory
>>>> > is segmented when using agenda groups. I have an agenda-group that
>>>> has
>>>> > focus set immediately from the session as follows with a few
objects
>>>> being
>>>> > inserted:
>>>> >
>>>> > ksession.insert(objectA);
>>>> > ksession.insert(objectB);
>>>> > ksession.getAgenda().getAgendaGroup("Foo").setFocus();
>>>> >
>>>> > I have 2 rules simplified down to illustrate my confusion. The
>>>> first rule
>>>> > simply sets some default values evaluated in the second rule if
>>>> objectA
>>>> > exists. In the example that works I set the defaults in the RHS
>>>> explicitly.
>>>> > However I want to use these defaults from different agenda-groups,
>>>> so when
>>>> > I put them in a function, the second rule never fires, the
>>>> activation is
>>>> > created for the first rule but never the second. Can someone tell
>>>> me why
>>>> > the use of a function seems to alter the truth of the rule?
>>>> >
>>>> > THIS WORKS:
>>>> >
>>>> > declare SomeDefault
>>>> > minValueA : Integer
>>>> > minValueB : Double
>>>> > maxValueB : Double
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>> > salience 100
>>>> > when
>>>> > $a : ObjectA()
>>>> > then
>>>> > default = new SomeDefault()
>>>> > default.minValueA = 100
>>>> > default.minValueB = 20.0
>>>> > default.maxValueB = 20000.0
>>>> > insert(default)
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>> > salience 100
>>>> > when
>>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>>>> > then
>>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" +
$default.minValueA)
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > THIS DOES NOT WORK:
>>>> >
>>>> > declare SomeDefault
>>>> > minValueA : Integer
>>>> > minValueB : Double
>>>> > maxValueB : Double
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > rule "Check Object A and Set Default"
>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>> > salience 100
>>>> > when
>>>> > $a : ObjectA()
>>>> > then
>>>> > insertDefault(drools.getWorkingMemory())
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > rule "Use the defaults"
>>>> > agenda-group "Foo"
>>>> > salience 90
>>>> > when
>>>> > $default : SomeDefault()
>>>> > then
>>>> > System.out.println("Default minA=" +
$default.minValueA)
>>>> > end
>>>> >
>>>> > function void insertDefault(WorkingMemory workingMemory) {
>>>> > SomeDefault default = new SomeDefault();
>>>> > default.setMinValueA(100);
>>>> > default.setMinValueB(20.0);
>>>> > default.setMaxValueB(20000.0);
>>>> > workingMemory.insert(default);
>>>> > }
>>>> >
>>>> > In the latter (non-working) example the first rule activates and
>>>> then drools
>>>> > returns, it never even attempts to try to fire the second rule.
>>>> However in
>>>> > the working example BOTH rules fire as I would expect. I am
>>>> guessing this
>>>> > is a simple misunderstanding on my part. Any assistance in
>>>> understanding
>>>> > why this nuance doesn't seem to work would be greatly
appreciated.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> > MiKey
>>>> >
>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> > rules-users mailing list
>>>> > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> - MyJourney @ http://salaboy.wordpress.com
>>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jugargentina.org
>>>> - Co-Founder @ http://www.jbug.com.ar
>>>>
>>>> - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio -
>>>>
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