Hi all, This may be a stupid question, but is there a way to see your Guvnor-rules outside Guvnor in some kind of readable file? I noticed jackrabbit is used as a repository, so I would like to have a look in there, but I am not able to find it in the expanded guvnor.war folder. The version I am using is Guvnor 5.1.1, with standard configuration. A look in the Guvnor documentation did not help me out. Feel free to burn me if I missed it :-) Thanks and regards, Frank -- View this message in context: http://drools-java-rules-engine.46999.n3.nabble.com/Rule-storage-tp274251... Sent from the Drools - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Hi, Thanks for your quick reply, Salaboy. Webdav indeed allow me to browse through the packages and I was able to locate a file mortgage-sample-repository.xml in the folder WEB-INF/classes of drools-fuvnor.war. However, changes in the xml did not show up in Guvnor and vice versa. So, jackrabbit has to store its contents somewhere else. The folder "repository" only consists of class-files. The reason I am looking for this file, is because I am looking for ways to simultaneously update multiple rule parameters, without adding a new rule to the ruleset. F.e. we want all base prices of our beverages to increase by 5%. It would be as if you run an sql update statement on a "rule database". You'll probably need to parse the drl to achieve this. Regards, Frank -- View this message in context: http://drools-java-rules-engine.46999.n3.nabble.com/Rule-storage-tp274251... Sent from the Drools - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Hi, Tx agaiin for the clarification on the .xml file. It makes a lot more sense, now. Bulk update is indeed not provided, I was hoping to have a look at the way the rules were stored (probably plain drl, or isn't it?) to assess what effort a bulk update would take. If you mean by your last statement to have rules that set the initial base price, and afterwards add rules to modify the base price (when beverage(), then b.augmentBasePrice(5)), I absolutely agree it is the best solution, implementation-wise. Regarding rule management and governance, there are a few issues that might arise. 1) It is more difficult to get a view on your base prices 2) What if base prices are adapted manually to the desired level? Which "adaptation rules" need to be deleted or changed? I am not saying that this should be basic functionality of a brms, neither am I very fond of the requirement myself. As it shifts the burden of work from the business to the more technical people :-) Regards, Frank manstis wrote: > > mortgage-sample-repository.xml is the example repository installed into > Guvnor when you first deploy (and answer "yes" to the install > examples > prompt). > > Changing this XML will therefore have no effect, unless you re-import the > XML too using the Administration functions in Guvnor. > > In order to achieve what you state you'd need to (a) use the JCR API to > query the underlying datastore, (b) re-build your binary rule package. We > don't provide a bulk update facility. > > Given your example would it be not best to have Beverages themselves as > Facts and have rules that set their prices? > > Think of the Rules Engine as a RDBMS and the Facts as records. > > With kind regards, > > Mike > > On 28 March 2011 14:09, FrankVhh <frank.vanhoenshoven(a)agserv.eu> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for your quick reply, Salaboy. > > > > Webdav indeed allow me to browse through the packages and I was able > to > > locate a file mortgage-sample-repository.xml in the folder > WEB-INF/classes > > of drools-fuvnor.war. > > > > However, changes in the xml did not show up in Guvnor and vice versa. > So, > > jackrabbit has to store its contents somewhere else. The folder > > "repository" > > only consists of class-files. > > > > The reason I am looking for this file, is because I am looking for > ways to > > simultaneously update multiple rule parameters, without adding a new > rule > > to > > the ruleset. F.e. we want all base prices of our beverages to > increase by > > 5%. > > > > It would be as if you run an sql update statement on a "rule > database". > > You'll probably need to parse the drl to achieve this. > > > > Regards, > > Frank > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://drools-java-rules-engine.46999.n3.nabble.com/Rule-storage-tp274251... > > Sent from the Drools - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > > rules-users mailing list > > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > -- View this message in context: http://drools-java-rules-engine.46999.n3.nabble.com/Rule-storage-tp274251... Sent from the Drools - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Mike, Thanks again for your swift reply. I have one more question, though :-) What do you mean by "only need to update DSL"? I really don't get this. Imo, DSL are just rules with a shirt on. Regards, Frank -- View this message in context: http://drools-java-rules-engine.46999.n3.nabble.com/Rule-storage-tp274251... Sent from the Drools - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users