Hi, Looks like there is some issue in the named query “* TasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner*” for the (*Drools Flow 5.1.0.M1 - Human Task* - Client Operation – *getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner*). It does not return the Tasks if we don’t specify anything in the “Comment” property of the “Human Task”. The following code was used to retrieve the results BlockingTaskSummaryResponseHandler responseHandler = *new* BlockingTaskSummaryResponseHandler(); client.getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner("Luke Cage", "en-UK", responseHandler); I looked at the generated SQL (given below) and look like it tries to match the ‘*task id*’ with the “*subjects_id*, *names_id*, *descriptions_id*” of the table I18NTEXT --- the values of the “subjects_id” and “descriptions_id” goes as null because there is no “comment” associated with the work item ‘*Human Task*’ and since *its not a left outer join* on the *descriptions_id *– hence no returned result. select task0_.id as col_0_0_, i18ntext4_.text as col_1_0_, subjects3_.text as col_2_0_, i18ntext5_.text as col_3_0_, task0_.status as col_4_0_, task0_.priority as col_5_0_, task0_.skipable as col_6_0_, task0_.task_data_actual_owner_id as col_7_0_, task0_.task_data_created_by_id as col_8_0_, task0_.created_on as col_9_0_, task0_.activation_time as col_10_0_, task0_.expiration_time as col_11_0_ from WSHT_TASK task0_ left outer join ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY user1_ on task0_.task_data_created_by_id=user1_.id left outer join ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY user2_ on task0_.task_data_actual_owner_id=user2_.id left outer join I18NTEXT subjects3_ on task0_.id=subjects3_.task_subjects_id, I18NTEXT i18ntext4_, I18NTEXT i18ntext5_, ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY organizati6_ where organizati6_.id=? and ( organizati6_.id in ( select potentialo9_.entity_id from PEOPLE_ASSIGNMENTS_POTENTIAL_OWNERS potentialo9_ where task0_.id=potentialo9_.task_id ) ) and i18ntext4_.language=? and ( i18ntext4_.id in ( select names10_.id from I18NTEXT names10_ where task0_.id=names10_.task_names_id ) ) and subjects3_.language=? and i18ntext5_.language=? and ( i18ntext5_.id in ( select descriptio11_.id from I18NTEXT descriptio11_ where task0_.id=descriptio11_.task_descriptions_id ) ) and ( task0_.status in ( 'Created' , 'Ready' , 'Reserved' , 'InProgress' , 'Suspended' ) ) and ( task0_.expiration_time is null ) Can someone throw some light on this? Do we have to have “Comment” property set? Thanks Vijay _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Thanks Mauricio for the quick reply. Is there any JIRA associated with this? Thanks Vijay ------------------------------ *From:* rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Mauricio Salatino *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:35 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Drools Flow 5.1.0.M1 - Human Task - Client Operation - getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner - does not return Task if "Comment" property is not set Yes.. I report that before, but it's not really a problem. The comment makes a relationship with all the i18n things. For now you need to set the comment to be able to retrieve the tasks that you want. Greetings. 2009/11/12 Vijay K Pandey <VPandey(a)mdes.ms.gov&gt; Hi, Looks like there is some issue in the named query “* TasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner*” for the (*Drools Flow 5.1.0.M1 - Human Task* - Client Operation – *getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner*). It does not return the Tasks if we don’t specify anything in the “Comment” property of the “Human Task”. The following code was used to retrieve the results BlockingTaskSummaryResponseHandler responseHandler = *new* BlockingTaskSummaryResponseHandler(); client.getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner("Luke Cage", "en-UK", responseHandler); I looked at the generated SQL (given below) and look like it tries to match the ‘*task id*’ with the “*subjects_id*, *names_id*, *descriptions_id*” of the table I18NTEXT --- the values of the “subjects_id” and “descriptions_id” goes as null because there is no “comment” associated with the work item ‘*Human Task*’ and since *its not a left outer join* on the *descriptions_id *– hence no returned result. select task0_.id as col_0_0_, i18ntext4_.text as col_1_0_, subjects3_.text as col_2_0_, i18ntext5_.text as col_3_0_, task0_.status as col_4_0_, task0_.priority as col_5_0_, task0_.skipable as col_6_0_, task0_.task_data_actual_owner_id as col_7_0_, task0_.task_data_created_by_id as col_8_0_, task0_.created_on as col_9_0_, task0_.activation_time as col_10_0_, task0_.expiration_time as col_11_0_ from WSHT_TASK task0_ left outer join ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY user1_ on task0_.task_data_created_by_id=user1_.id left outer join ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY user2_ on task0_.task_data_actual_owner_id=user2_.id left outer join I18NTEXT subjects3_ on task0_.id=subjects3_.task_subjects_id, I18NTEXT i18ntext4_, I18NTEXT i18ntext5_, ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY organizati6_ where organizati6_.id=? and ( organizati6_.id in ( select potentialo9_.entity_id from PEOPLE_ASSIGNMENTS_POTENTIAL_OWNERS potentialo9_ where task0_.id=potentialo9_.task_id ) ) and i18ntext4_.language=? and ( i18ntext4_.id in ( select names10_.id from I18NTEXT names10_ where task0_.id=names10_.task_names_id ) ) and subjects3_.language=? and i18ntext5_.language=? and ( i18ntext5_.id in ( select descriptio11_.id from I18NTEXT descriptio11_ where task0_.id=descriptio11_.task_descriptions_id ) ) and ( task0_.status in ( 'Created' , 'Ready' , 'Reserved' , 'InProgress' , 'Suspended' ) ) and ( task0_.expiration_time is null ) Can someone throw some light on this? Do we have to have “Comment” property set? Thanks Vijay _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- - http://salaboy.wordpress.com - http://www.jbug.com.ar - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio - _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Thanks, I guess “Comment” will not harm so for now will set the same as the “Task Name” ------------------------------ *From:* rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Mauricio Salatino *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2009 1:48 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Drools Flow 5.1.0.M1 - Human Task - Client Operation - getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner - does not return Task if "Comment" property is not set I think not, because it's only that, I just always add a comment for that query works. 2009/11/12 Vijay K Pandey <VPandey(a)mdes.ms.gov&gt; Thanks Mauricio for the quick reply. Is there any JIRA associated with this? Thanks Vijay ------------------------------ *From:* rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] *On Behalf Of *Mauricio Salatino *Sent:* Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:35 PM *To:* Rules Users List *Subject:* Re: [rules-users] Drools Flow 5.1.0.M1 - Human Task - Client Operation - getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner - does not return Task if "Comment" property is not set Yes.. I report that before, but it's not really a problem. The comment makes a relationship with all the i18n things. For now you need to set the comment to be able to retrieve the tasks that you want. Greetings. 2009/11/12 Vijay K Pandey <VPandey(a)mdes.ms.gov&gt; Hi, Looks like there is some issue in the named query “* TasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner*” for the (*Drools Flow 5.1.0.M1 - Human Task* - Client Operation – *getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner*). It does not return the Tasks if we don’t specify anything in the “Comment” property of the “Human Task”. The following code was used to retrieve the results BlockingTaskSummaryResponseHandler responseHandler = *new* BlockingTaskSummaryResponseHandler(); client.getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner("Luke Cage", "en-UK", responseHandler); I looked at the generated SQL (given below) and look like it tries to match the ‘*task id*’ with the “*subjects_id*, *names_id*, *descriptions_id*” of the table I18NTEXT --- the values of the “subjects_id” and “descriptions_id” goes as null because there is no “comment” associated with the work item ‘*Human Task*’ and since *its not a left outer join* on the *descriptions_id *– hence no returned result. select task0_.id as col_0_0_, i18ntext4_.text as col_1_0_, subjects3_.text as col_2_0_, i18ntext5_.text as col_3_0_, task0_.status as col_4_0_, task0_.priority as col_5_0_, task0_.skipable as col_6_0_, task0_.task_data_actual_owner_id as col_7_0_, task0_.task_data_created_by_id as col_8_0_, task0_.created_on as col_9_0_, task0_.activation_time as col_10_0_, task0_.expiration_time as col_11_0_ from WSHT_TASK task0_ left outer join ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY user1_ on task0_.task_data_created_by_id=user1_.id left outer join ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY user2_ on task0_.task_data_actual_owner_id=user2_.id left outer join I18NTEXT subjects3_ on task0_.id=subjects3_.task_subjects_id, I18NTEXT i18ntext4_, I18NTEXT i18ntext5_, ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY organizati6_ where organizati6_.id=? and ( organizati6_.id in ( select potentialo9_.entity_id from PEOPLE_ASSIGNMENTS_POTENTIAL_OWNERS potentialo9_ where task0_.id=potentialo9_.task_id ) ) and i18ntext4_.language=? and ( i18ntext4_.id in ( select names10_.id from I18NTEXT names10_ where task0_.id=names10_.task_names_id ) ) and subjects3_.language=? and i18ntext5_.language=? and ( i18ntext5_.id in ( select descriptio11_.id from I18NTEXT descriptio11_ where task0_.id=descriptio11_.task_descriptions_id ) ) and ( task0_.status in ( 'Created' , 'Ready' , 'Reserved' , 'InProgress' , 'Suspended' ) ) and ( task0_.expiration_time is null ) Can someone throw some light on this? Do we have to have “Comment” property set? Thanks Vijay _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- - http://salaboy.wordpress.com - http://www.jbug.com.ar - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio - _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- - http://salaboy.wordpress.com - http://www.jbug.com.ar - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio - _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Actually, there is, and I believe the fix is already implemented in the latest snapshot, have you tried this already? https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBRULES-2324 Kris Quoting Vijay K Pandey <VPandey(a)mdes.ms.gov&gt;: > Thanks Mauricio for the quick reply. Is there any JIRA associated > with this? > > Thanks > Vijay > ________________________________ > From: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org > [mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Mauricio > Salatino > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 12:35 PM > To: Rules Users List > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Drools Flow 5.1.0.M1 - Human Task - Client > Operation - getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner - does not return Task > if "Comment" property is not set > > Yes.. I report that before, > but it's not really a problem. The comment makes a relationship with > all the i18n things. > For now you need to set the comment to be able to retrieve the tasks > that you want. > Greetings. > 2009/11/12 Vijay K Pandey > <VPandey@mdes.ms.gov<mailto:VPandey@mdes.ms.gov>> > Hi, > > Looks like there is some issue in the named query > "TasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner" for the (Drools Flow 5.1.0.M1 - Human > Task - Client Operation - getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner). > > It does not return the Tasks if we don't specify anything in the > "Comment" property of the "Human Task". The following code was used > to retrieve the results > > BlockingTaskSummaryResponseHandler responseHandler = new > BlockingTaskSummaryResponseHandler(); > client.getTasksAssignedAsPotentialOwner("Luke Cage", "en-UK", > responseHandler); > > I looked at the generated SQL (given below) and look like it tries to > match the 'task id' with the "subjects_id, names_id, descriptions_id" > of the table I18NTEXT --- the values of the "subjects_id" and > "descriptions_id" goes as null because there is no "comment" > associated with the work item 'Human Task' and since its not a left > outer join on the descriptions_id - hence no returned result. > > select > task0_.id as col_0_0_, > i18ntext4_.text as col_1_0_, > subjects3_.text as col_2_0_, > i18ntext5_.text as col_3_0_, > task0_.status as col_4_0_, > task0_.priority as col_5_0_, > task0_.skipable as col_6_0_, > task0_.task_data_actual_owner_id as col_7_0_, > task0_.task_data_created_by_id as col_8_0_, > task0_.created_on as col_9_0_, > task0_.activation_time as col_10_0_, > task0_.expiration_time as col_11_0_ > from > WSHT_TASK task0_ > left outer join > ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY user1_ > on task0_.task_data_created_by_id=user1_.id > left outer join > ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY user2_ > on task0_.task_data_actual_owner_id=user2_.id > left outer join > I18NTEXT subjects3_ > on task0_.id=subjects3_.task_subjects_id, > I18NTEXT i18ntext4_, > I18NTEXT i18ntext5_, > ORGANIZATIONAL_ENTITY organizati6_ > where > organizati6_.id=? > and ( > organizati6_.id in ( > select > potentialo9_.entity_id > from > PEOPLE_ASSIGNMENTS_POTENTIAL_OWNERS potentialo9_ > where > task0_.id=potentialo9_.task_id > ) > ) > and i18ntext4_.language=? > and ( > i18ntext4_.id in ( > select > names10_.id > from > I18NTEXT names10_ > where > task0_.id=names10_.task_names_id > ) > ) > and subjects3_.language=? > and i18ntext5_.language=? > and ( > i18ntext5_.id in ( > select > descriptio11_.id > from > I18NTEXT descriptio11_ > where > task0_.id=descriptio11_.task_descriptions_id > ) > ) > and ( > task0_.status in ( > 'Created' , 'Ready' , 'Reserved' , 'InProgress' , > 'Suspended' > ) > ) > and ( > task0_.expiration_time is null > ) > > Can someone throw some light on this? Do we have to have "Comment" > property set? > > Thanks > Vijay > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > -- > - http://salaboy.wordpress.com > - http://www.jbug.com.ar > - Salatino "Salaboy" Mauricio - > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Weily, Were you able to find a solution to this problem? I have been trying to get working memory view, agenda view working in eclipse 3.4.2 with Drools plugin 5.0 but they are always blank. I am not really sure if there are any other configuration changes that I should be making in order for them to work. The documentation does not have any trouble shooting tips too. Regards, Vijay weily li wrote: > > Yes, My Env: > Jboss IDE 2.0.0 Beta 2 > Drools plug-in: 3.0.4 > > I inserted four views from windows > show views > Others... > When debugging, nothing is shown at these views. > > Thanks > rgds > Weily > > > On 11/6/06, Joj <jojpm(a)yahoo.com&gt; wrote: >> >> >> hi, >> >> in ur documentation it's written tht: >> >> "When debugging an application using a Drools engine, three new views >> can >> be >> used to check the state of the Drools engine itself: the Working Memory >> View, the Agenda View and the Global Data View. To be able to use these >> views, create breakpoints in your code invoking the working memory. For >> example, the line where you call workingMemory.fireAllRules() is a good >> candidate. If the debugger halts at that joinpoint, you should select >> the >> working memory variable in the debug variables view." >> >> >> but these views are always blank when debugging. >> should i have to enter this view from the line: >> workingMemory.fireAllRules(); ?? >> but how can i? >> >> plz reply A.S.A.P. >> >> thanx in advance >> jojan >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Seeing-Working-Memory-View%2C-Agenda-View%2C-etc-in... >> Sent from the drools - user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list please visit: >> >> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >> >> > >

Richard, I use "Drools Application" to launch my applications. In the refresh problem that you encountered do you have any elements in those views and they are just out of sync with your current execution ? In my case the view are totally empty and just have the option of manually loading the audit view from the .log file generated by the logger. I have tried in both eclipse 3.4 /3.5 and also changing drools-runtime. Thanks, Vijay Richard Bourner wrote: > > Weily and Vijay, > > One idea to consider: when you launch your application within Studio, do > not forget to create a new launch configuration under "Drools > Application" and not under "Java Application" in the "Debug > Configurations..." window. > Besides this (which may not be your issue), there seems to be a refresh > problem in these 4 views (i.e. WM, Agenda, Audit & Global Data): the > workaround I found seems to be to navigate and go back to the one you are > interested in and it should display the info you are after. > I am in the same configuration as you and doing these 2 things made my > day. > > Hope this helps. > Richard > > > Vijay Katam wrote: >> >> Weily, >> Were you able to find a solution to this problem? I have been trying to >> get working memory view, agenda view working in eclipse 3.4.2 with >> Drools plugin 5.0 but they are always blank. I am not really sure if >> there are any other configuration changes that I should be making in >> order for them to work. The documentation does not have any trouble >> shooting tips too. >> >> Regards, >> Vijay >> >> >> weily li wrote: >>> >>> Yes, My Env: >>> Jboss IDE 2.0.0 Beta 2 >>> Drools plug-in: 3.0.4 >>> >>> I inserted four views from windows > show views > Others... >>> When debugging, nothing is shown at these views. >>> >>> Thanks >>> rgds >>> Weily >>> >>> >>> On 11/6/06, Joj <jojpm(a)yahoo.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> in ur documentation it's written tht: >>>> >>>> "When debugging an application using a Drools engine, three new views >>>> can >>>> be >>>> used to check the state of the Drools engine itself: the Working >>>> Memory >>>> View, the Agenda View and the Global Data View. To be able to use >>>> these >>>> views, create breakpoints in your code invoking the working memory. >>>> For >>>> example, the line where you call workingMemory.fireAllRules() is a >>>> good >>>> candidate. If the debugger halts at that joinpoint, you should select >>>> the >>>> working memory variable in the debug variables view." >>>> >>>> >>>> but these views are always blank when debugging. >>>> should i have to enter this view from the line: >>>> workingMemory.fireAllRules(); ?? >>>> but how can i? >>>> >>>> plz reply A.S.A.P. >>>> >>>> thanx in advance >>>> jojan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: >>>> http://www.nabble.com/Seeing-Working-Memory-View%2C-Agenda-View%2C-etc-in... >>>> Sent from the drools - user mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list please visit: >>>> >>>> http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Richard, I tried the steps that you outlined and it works!!!. Hopefully they can put these instructions on the documentation too. Appreciate your help. Vijay Richard Bourner wrote: > > Vijay, > > I am using Eclipse 3.4.2 and the scenario I encounter is the following: > - set a breakpoint in my Java main (i.e. before the call to fileAllRules) > - set a breakpoint in a rule action (which I make sure is supposed to > fire) > - execute the main in Debug mode > - when it stops at the 1st breakpoint, open the WM view -> it is blank > which is expected > - Resume execution > - when it stops at the 2nd breakpoint in the rule, the WM is blank > - if I select the Agenda view and come back to the WM view, I see my data > > Please note that the problem is the same if I invert the 2 views (and I am > assuming the problem is the same for the 4 views, even though I haven't > tried). > > Richard > > > Vijay Katam wrote: >> >> Richard, >> I use "Drools Application" to launch my applications. In the refresh >> problem that you encountered do you have any elements in those views and >> they are just out of sync with your current execution ? In my case the >> view are totally empty and just have the option of manually loading the >> audit view from the .log file generated by the logger. >> >> I have tried in both eclipse 3.4 /3.5 and also changing drools-runtime. >> >> Thanks, >> Vijay >> >> >> Richard Bourner wrote: >>> >>> Weily and Vijay, >>> >>> One idea to consider: when you launch your application within Studio, do >>> not forget to create a new launch configuration under "Drools >>> Application" and not under "Java Application" in the "Debug >>> Configurations..." window. >>> Besides this (which may not be your issue), there seems to be a refresh >>> problem in these 4 views (i.e. WM, Agenda, Audit & Global Data): the >>> workaround I found seems to be to navigate and go back to the one you >>> are interested in and it should display the info you are after. >>> I am in the same configuration as you and doing these 2 things made my >>> day. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> Vijay Katam wrote: >>>> >>>> Weily, >>>> Were you able to find a solution to this problem? I have been trying >>>> to get working memory view, agenda view working in eclipse 3.4.2 with >>>> Drools plugin 5.0 but they are always blank. I am not really sure if >>>> there are any other configuration changes that I should be making in >>>> order for them to work. The documentation does not have any trouble >>>> shooting tips too. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Vijay >>>> >>>> >>>> weily li wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, My Env: >>>>> Jboss IDE 2.0.0 Beta 2 >>>>> Drools plug-in: 3.0.4 >>>>> >>>>> I inserted four views from windows > show views > Others... >>>>> When debugging, nothing is shown at these views. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> rgds >>>>> Weily >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/6/06, Joj <jojpm(a)yahoo.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> in ur documentation it's written tht: >>>>>> >>>>>> "When debugging an application using a Drools engine, three new views >>>>>> can >>>>>> be >>>>>> used to check the state of the Drools engine itself: the Working >>>>>> Memory >>>>>> View, the Agenda View and the Global Data View. To be able to use >>>>>> these >>>>>> views, create breakpoints in your code invoking the working memory. >>>>>> For >>>>>> example, the line where you call workingMemory.fireAllRules() is a >>>>>> good >>>>>> candidate. If the debugger halts at that joinpoint, you should select >>>>>> the >>>>>> working memory variable in the debug variables view." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> but these views are always blank when debugging. >>>>>> should i have to enter this view from the line: >>>>>> workingMemory.fireAllRules(); ?? >>>>>> but how can i? >>>>>> >>>>>> plz reply A.S.A.P. >>>>>> >>>>>> thanx in advance >>>>>> jojan >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>

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