What version of Guvnor are you using? I attach a screenshot produced using 5.4.0.CR1. I also note your screenshot shows "All ACObeservation" where as mine "There is a TelephoneCall" Can you describe the steps you have taken, or supply a repository export? On 27 April 2012 12:12, Pellecchia Carolina <c.pellecchia(a)vitrociset.it&gt;wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > I couldn't bind a field because the click on the field doesn't work. > concretely, please see attached. > > > Thank you in advance, > Carolina Pellecchia > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Anstis <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; > Date: Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES > To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; > > > Glad to be of assistance. > > To bind a field, once the field has been added to the Fact type simply > click on the field name. > > With kind regards, > > Mike > > > On 27 April 2012 08:31, Pellecchia Carolina <c.pellecchia(a)vitrociset.it > <mailto:c.pellecchia@vitrociset.it>> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > I’m a colleague of Matteo Cusmai, we would like to thank you for your > suggestions. you have been very helpful. > > Following your steps, I couldn't understand a point: how can I bind a > field(for ex. RadiationObservation.location) to a variable? > specifically, > > $obs : RadiationObservation(?$obsLocation : location? ) over > window:length (1) from entry-point "lowLevelSensorStream" > > > Best regards, > Carolina Pellecchia > ________________________________________ > Da: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; [rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org>] per conto di > rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; [rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:rules-users-request@lists.jboss.org>] > Inviato: giovedì 26 aprile 2012 19.07 > A: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > Oggetto: rules-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 93 > > Send rules-users mailing list submissions to > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rules-users-owner(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users-owner(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of rules-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Setting variables in a stateless session (Welsh, Armand) > 2. Re: Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES (Michael Anstis) > 3. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor > (Michael Anstis) > 4. looking for advice (Bobby Richards) > 5. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor > (Vincent LEGENDRE) > 6. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor (Sean Su) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:57:11 +0000 > From: "Welsh, Armand" <AWelsh(a)StateStreet.com&gt; > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Setting variables in a stateless session > To: "rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>" < > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> > Message-ID: > < > D52DE19B4C463C4BA21F81790B9F079543084863(a)GDCPW3376.corp.statestr.com > <mailto: > D52DE19B4C463C4BA21F81790B9F079543084863(a)GDCPW3376.corp.statestr.com&gt;&gt; > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Think of a stateless knowledge session as being a statefull knowledge > session, with the following adjustments: > A stateless knowledge session cannot be manipulated prior the start of > the session. > A stateless knowledge session cannot be manipulated or queried after the > end of the session. > A stateless session begins when you execute the fireallrules method. > A stateless session ends when the rule processing terminates. -- There > is no pause, there is no restarting. The instant the rules stop firing, > and return to your calling code, the knowledge session has been torn down. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt; [mailto: > rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org>] On Behalf Of bardelman > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:06 AM > To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > Subject: [rules-users] Setting variables in a stateless session > > hi folks, this is a simple question , > i just want to understand how is it possible that a stateless session > have a > setGlobal() method as it does not maintain a state. What's the point ?! > i also have some confusion between a "request scope" and a "stateless > session scope" i think it s the same.. > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Setting-variables-in-a-stateless-sessio... > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:09 +0100 > From: Michael Anstis <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES > To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; > Message-ID: > <CAAG9P0tN=HqTJ9hkJHDiQGBk=_10o4f810-bQBhbTFwUtO-fEQ(a)mail.gmail.com > <mailto:10o4f810-bQBhbTFwUtO-fEQ@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Sure. > > - Create "New Rule" > > > - Add a condition (green + near "WHEN") > > > - Select "From Entry Point" > > > - Type "lowLevelSensorStream" into TextBox > > > - Click on "click to add patterns..." > > > - Select your Fact Type (see * below) > > > - In "Over sliding window" ListBox select "Length" > > > - Type "1" into the TextBox next to "Length". > > * OK, so this is possibly where you're having problems. > > In order for a Fact Type to be used with CEP it needs to be annotated as > an > Event. This is how this can be accomplished:- > > *If you have a Declarative Model > * > > - Open the Declarative Model > > > - Select the Fact Type that should be an Event > > > - Add an Annotation, name="role", key="value", value="event" > > > - Save > > > *If you have a POJO Model* > > - Create a new Declarative Model > > > - Add a Fact Type that matches the name of that in your JAR > > > - Add an Annotation, name="role", key="value", value="event" > > > - Save > > > Annotating your POJO is covered in the Drools Expert User Guide. You are > just using Guvnor to achieve what is required. > > With kind regards, > > Mike > > On 26 April 2012 15:22, Matteo Cusmai <cusmaimatteo(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > cusmaimatteo(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote: > > > Hi Mike, > > thanks for suggestion, but i have already read documentation. > > > > First of all, i cannot define "over window:length(1) from entry-point > > lowLevelSensorStream". > > Do you help me to do this? > > > > Best Regards, > > Matteo. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Anstis < > michael.anstis@gmail.com<mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >> Yes this is possible with Guvnor 5.2 onwards. > >> > >> The user-guide explains how to use the Guided Rule Editor (but not > >> specifically CEP features). > >> > >> Read that and give it a try - it's reasonably intuitive (not an excuse > >> for poor documentation though) and come back here with questions. > >> > >> With kind regards, > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> On 26 April 2012 09:08, Matteo Cusmai <cusmaimatteo(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > cusmaimatteo(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> i am novice on GUVNOR, but i would like to define my fusion rules by > >>> graphical tool. > >>> > >>> An example of my rules is: > >>> > >>> rule "radiation-event" > >>> salience 10 > >>> no-loop > >>> when > >>> $obs : RadiationObservation( $obsLocation : location, > value > > >>> 10 ) over window:length(1) from entry-point lowLevelSensorStream > >>> not RadiationEvent( this meets[ 25s ] $obs, location > >>> geoIsWithinDistance[ 5m ] $obsLocation ) > >>> then > >>> insert(new RadiationEvent( $obs, "Radiation over 10", > >>> Event.THREAT_HIGH, $obsLocation, $obs.getSensor() )); > >>> end > >>> > >>> rule "radiation-update" > >>> salience 5 > >>> no-loop > >>> when > >>> $obs : RadiationObservation( $obsLocation : location, > value > > >>> 10 ) over window:length(1) from entry-point lowLevelSensorStream > >>> $event : RadiationEvent( this meets[ 25s ] $obs, location > >>> geoIsWithinDistance[ 5m ] $obsLocation ) > >>> then > >>> Event e = Event.clone($event); > >>> e.addObservation($obs); > >>> insert( e ); > >>> retract($event); > >>> retract($obs); > >>> end > >>> > >>> Is it possibile to define rules such the above using GUVNOR? > >>> Are there some documentation or tutorial? > >>> > >>> Thanks a lot in advance, > >>> Matteo Cusmai. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> rules-users mailing list > >>> rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > >>> > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> rules-users mailing list > >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rules-users mailing list > > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/31ab515... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:40:27 +0100 > From: Michael Anstis <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument > constructor > To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; > Message-ID: > <CAAG9P0tnkU2nLzXduz03si26uL-wFtRAA=0ogGAF05OJEZ4dGw(a)mail.gmail.com > <mailto:0ogGAF05OJEZ4dGw@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Seems reasonable enough. > > On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su <sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote: > > > It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from > > the java class that has the default non argument constructor in > > Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. > > This would force us to provide setters to the object. > > > > Is this a true statement? > > > > Thanks > > > > Sean > > > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > > rules-users mailing list > > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/75a0a7a... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:42:41 -0500 > From: Bobby Richards <bobby.richards(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > bobby.richards(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; > Subject: [rules-users] looking for advice > To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > Message-ID: > <CAAqkdrv7Nv1WMByZsd+XM=OZvetnEOFk03x7QaTGyNc6wAbccQ(a)mail.gmail.com > <mailto:OZvetnEOFk03x7QaTGyNc6wAbccQ@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have not yet determined how I want to implement my problem and was > hoping > to get some feedback. > > I am using drools to migrate the logic from my automated currency trading > infrastructure. Each currency pair, i.e. eurusd has around > 200 attributes associated with it. > > This includes range values (high, low, average) for multiple time periods, > volatility information, bid/ask updates etc. > > Currently I have classes associated for each, so say for range: > > class Range { > double high; > double low; > double avg; > } > > Range europe = new Range(); //european trading hours > Range us = new Range(); //us trading hours > > > Questions: > 1. I am wondering if I should not just create a map that lists every > attribute per pair as a key ("eurusd:range:europe:high")? So essentially > my drools session will have one fact, not counting the incoming quotes. I > see on the list that this was a problem before the mvel updates but that > was a while ago. > > 2. When an incoming quote might modify a value, what is the performance > difference between using a rule to change the value or making the changes > outside of the ksession and referencing the facthandler to modify? Is one > method considered 'cleaner'? > > Thanks, > Bobby > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/2b86c5f... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:48:37 +0200 (CEST) > From: Vincent LEGENDRE <vincent.legendre(a)eurodecision.com&lt;mailto: > vincent.legendre(a)eurodecision.com&gt;&gt; > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument > constructor > To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; > Message-ID: > <1c470056-3677-4bd2-a1eb-368610b51999(a)confiance.eurodecision.fr > <mailto:1c470056-3677-4bd2-a1eb-368610b51999@confiance.eurodecision.fr>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters > (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) > > ----- Mail original ----- > > De: "Michael Anstis" <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; > ?: "Rules Users List" <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; > Envoy?: Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 > Objet: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor > > > Seems reasonable enough. > > > On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su < sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: > > > It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from > the java class that has the default non argument constructor in > Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. > This would force us to provide setters to the object. > > Is this a true statement? > > Thanks > > Sean > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/29fa984... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:06:57 -0400 > From: Sean Su <sean.x.su@gmail.com<mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument > constructor > To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; > Message-ID: <-6645870489207221519@unknownmsgid> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without > fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new > events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created, > it should not be modified as it happened in the past. > > So I am trying to avoid setters if possible. > > Sean > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE < > vincent.legendre(a)eurodecision.com&lt;mailto: > vincent.legendre(a)eurodecision.com&gt;&gt; wrote: > > JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters > (for > writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) > > ------------------------------ > *De: *"Michael Anstis" <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; > *?: *"Rules Users List" <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; > *Envoy?: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 > *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument > constructor > > Seems reasonable enough. > > On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su <sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: > sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote: > > > It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from > > the java class that has the default non argument constructor in > > Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. > > This would force us to provide setters to the object. > > > > Is this a true statement? > > > > Thanks > > > > Sean > > > > Sent from my iPad > > _______________________________________________ > > rules-users mailing list > > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/26a2bda... > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > End of rules-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 93 > ******************************************* > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > >

Hi Mike, the issue has been solved by updating the version from 5.3.0 to 5.4.0.CR1. I have one other question, How can I create an instance of type without default constructor? otherwise how can I invoke a constructor with parameters? specifically, 6. | then 7. | AccessControlEvent fact0 = new AccessControlEvent(?$obsh?,? "Access Control Detection"?); Thanks a lot in advance, Carolina Pellecchia ________________________________________ Da: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org [ rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org] per conto di Michael Anstis [ michael.anstis(a)gmail.com] Inviato: venerdì 27 aprile 2012 13.25 A: Rules Users List Oggetto: Re: [rules-users] Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES And the screenshot ;) On 27 April 2012 12:24, Michael Anstis <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt; wrote: What version of Guvnor are you using? I attach a screenshot produced using 5.4.0.CR1. I also note your screenshot shows "All ACObeservation" where as mine "There is a TelephoneCall" Can you describe the steps you have taken, or supply a repository export? On 27 April 2012 12:12, Pellecchia Carolina <c.pellecchia(a)vitrociset.it <mailto:c.pellecchia@vitrociset.it>> wrote: Hi Mike, I couldn't bind a field because the click on the field doesn't work. concretely, please see attached. Thank you in advance, Carolina Pellecchia ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Anstis <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: michael.anstis@gmail.com><mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com<mailto: michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [rules-users] Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; Glad to be of assistance. To bind a field, once the field has been added to the Fact type simply click on the field name. With kind regards, Mike On 27 April 2012 08:31, Pellecchia Carolina <c.pellecchia(a)vitrociset.it <mailto:c.pellecchia@vitrociset.it><mailto:c.pellecchia@vitrociset.it <mailto:c.pellecchia@vitrociset.it>>> wrote: Hi Mike, I’m a colleague of Matteo Cusmai, we would like to thank you for your suggestions. you have been very helpful. Following your steps, I couldn't understand a point: how can I bind a field(for ex. RadiationObservation.location) to a variable? specifically, $obs : RadiationObservation(?$obsLocation : location? ) over window:length (1) from entry-point "lowLevelSensorStream" Best regards, Carolina Pellecchia ________________________________________ Da: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; [rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users-bounces@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;] per conto di rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&lt;mailto: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; [rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users-request@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;] Inviato: giovedì 26 aprile 2012 19.07 A: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> Oggetto: rules-users Digest, Vol 65, Issue 93 Send rules-users mailing list submissions to rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org ><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&lt;mailto: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-request(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; You can reach the person managing the list at rules-users-owner(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-owner(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&lt;mailto: rules-users-owner@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users-owner@lists.jboss.org >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of rules-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Setting variables in a stateless session (Welsh, Armand) 2. Re: Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES (Michael Anstis) 3. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor (Michael Anstis) 4. looking for advice (Bobby Richards) 5. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor (Vincent LEGENDRE) 6. Re: Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor (Sean Su) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:57:11 +0000 From: "Welsh, Armand" <AWelsh(a)StateStreet.com&gt; Subject: Re: [rules-users] Setting variables in a stateless session To: "rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org ><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>>" <rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>>> Message-ID: <D52DE19B4C463C4BA21F81790B9F079543084863(a)GDCPW3376.corp.statestr.com <mailto: D52DE19B4C463C4BA21F81790B9F079543084863(a)GDCPW3376.corp.statestr.com ><mailto: D52DE19B4C463C4BA21F81790B9F079543084863(a)GDCPW3376.corp.statestr.com <mailto: D52DE19B4C463C4BA21F81790B9F079543084863(a)GDCPW3376.corp.statestr.com&gt;&gt;&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Think of a stateless knowledge session as being a statefull knowledge session, with the following adjustments: A stateless knowledge session cannot be manipulated prior the start of the session. A stateless knowledge session cannot be manipulated or queried after the end of the session. A stateless session begins when you execute the fireallrules method. A stateless session ends when the rule processing terminates. -- There is no pause, there is no restarting. The instant the rules stop firing, and return to your calling code, the knowledge session has been torn down. -----Original Message----- From: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt; [mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users-bounces(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;] On Behalf Of bardelman Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:06 AM To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org ><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> Subject: [rules-users] Setting variables in a stateless session hi folks, this is a simple question , i just want to understand how is it possible that a stateless session have a setGlobal() method as it does not maintain a state. What's the point ?! i also have some confusion between a "request scope" and a "stateless session scope" i think it s the same.. -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/Setting-variables-in-a-stateless-sessio... Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 15:52:09 +0100 From: Michael Anstis <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: michael.anstis@gmail.com><mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com<mailto: michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [rules-users] Using GUVNOR for FUSION RULES To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; Message-ID: <CAAG9P0tN=HqTJ9hkJHDiQGBk=_10o4f810-bQBhbTFwUtO-fEQ(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:10o4f810-bQBhbTFwUtO-fEQ@mail.gmail.com><mailto: 10o4f810-bQBhbTFwUtO-fEQ(a)mail.gmail.com&lt;mailto: 10o4f810-bQBhbTFwUtO-fEQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sure. - Create "New Rule" - Add a condition (green + near "WHEN") - Select "From Entry Point" - Type "lowLevelSensorStream" into TextBox - Click on "click to add patterns..." - Select your Fact Type (see * below) - In "Over sliding window" ListBox select "Length" - Type "1" into the TextBox next to "Length". * OK, so this is possibly where you're having problems. In order for a Fact Type to be used with CEP it needs to be annotated as an Event. This is how this can be accomplished:- *If you have a Declarative Model * - Open the Declarative Model - Select the Fact Type that should be an Event - Add an Annotation, name="role", key="value", value="event" - Save *If you have a POJO Model* - Create a new Declarative Model - Add a Fact Type that matches the name of that in your JAR - Add an Annotation, name="role", key="value", value="event" - Save Annotating your POJO is covered in the Drools Expert User Guide. You are just using Guvnor to achieve what is required. With kind regards, Mike On 26 April 2012 15:22, Matteo Cusmai <cusmaimatteo(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: cusmaimatteo@gmail.com><mailto:cusmaimatteo@gmail.com<mailto: cusmaimatteo(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: > Hi Mike, > thanks for suggestion, but i have already read documentation. > > First of all, i cannot define "over window:length(1) from entry-point > lowLevelSensorStream". > Do you help me to do this? > > Best Regards, > Matteo. > > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Michael Anstis < michael.anstis@gmail.com<mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com><mailto: michael.anstis@gmail.com<mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > >> Yes this is possible with Guvnor 5.2 onwards. >> >> The user-guide explains how to use the Guided Rule Editor (but not >> specifically CEP features). >> >> Read that and give it a try - it's reasonably intuitive (not an excuse >> for poor documentation though) and come back here with questions. >> >> With kind regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 26 April 2012 09:08, Matteo Cusmai <cusmaimatteo(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: cusmaimatteo@gmail.com><mailto:cusmaimatteo@gmail.com<mailto: cusmaimatteo(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> i am novice on GUVNOR, but i would like to define my fusion rules by >>> graphical tool. >>> >>> An example of my rules is: >>> >>> rule "radiation-event" >>> salience 10 >>> no-loop >>> when >>> $obs : RadiationObservation( $obsLocation : location, value > >>> 10 ) over window:length(1) from entry-point lowLevelSensorStream >>> not RadiationEvent( this meets[ 25s ] $obs, location >>> geoIsWithinDistance[ 5m ] $obsLocation ) >>> then >>> insert(new RadiationEvent( $obs, "Radiation over 10", >>> Event.THREAT_HIGH, $obsLocation, $obs.getSensor() )); >>> end >>> >>> rule "radiation-update" >>> salience 5 >>> no-loop >>> when >>> $obs : RadiationObservation( $obsLocation : location, value > >>> 10 ) over window:length(1) from entry-point lowLevelSensorStream >>> $event : RadiationEvent( this meets[ 25s ] $obs, location >>> geoIsWithinDistance[ 5m ] $obsLocation ) >>> then >>> Event e = Event.clone($event); >>> e.addObservation($obs); >>> insert( e ); >>> retract($event); >>> retract($obs); >>> end >>> >>> Is it possibile to define rules such the above using GUVNOR? >>> Are there some documentation or tutorial? >>> >>> Thanks a lot in advance, >>> Matteo Cusmai. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org ><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/31ab515... ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:40:27 +0100 From: Michael Anstis <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: michael.anstis@gmail.com><mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com<mailto: michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; Message-ID: <CAAG9P0tnkU2nLzXduz03si26uL-wFtRAA=0ogGAF05OJEZ4dGw(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:0ogGAF05OJEZ4dGw@mail.gmail.com><mailto: 0ogGAF05OJEZ4dGw@mail.gmail.com<mailto:0ogGAF05OJEZ4dGw@mail.gmail.com>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su <sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: sean.x.su@gmail.com><mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com<mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com>>> wrote: > It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from > the java class that has the default non argument constructor in > Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. > This would force us to provide setters to the object. > > Is this a true statement? > > Thanks > > Sean > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/75a0a7a... ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:42:41 -0500 From: Bobby Richards <bobby.richards(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: bobby.richards@gmail.com><mailto:bobby.richards@gmail.com<mailto: bobby.richards(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [rules-users] looking for advice To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org ><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> Message-ID: <CAAqkdrv7Nv1WMByZsd+XM=OZvetnEOFk03x7QaTGyNc6wAbccQ(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:OZvetnEOFk03x7QaTGyNc6wAbccQ@mail.gmail.com><mailto: OZvetnEOFk03x7QaTGyNc6wAbccQ(a)mail.gmail.com&lt;mailto: OZvetnEOFk03x7QaTGyNc6wAbccQ(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have not yet determined how I want to implement my problem and was hoping to get some feedback. I am using drools to migrate the logic from my automated currency trading infrastructure. Each currency pair, i.e. eurusd has around 200 attributes associated with it. This includes range values (high, low, average) for multiple time periods, volatility information, bid/ask updates etc. Currently I have classes associated for each, so say for range: class Range { double high; double low; double avg; } Range europe = new Range(); //european trading hours Range us = new Range(); //us trading hours Questions: 1. I am wondering if I should not just create a map that lists every attribute per pair as a key ("eurusd:range:europe:high")? So essentially my drools session will have one fact, not counting the incoming quotes. I see on the list that this was a problem before the mvel updates but that was a while ago. 2. When an incoming quote might modify a value, what is the performance difference between using a rule to change the value or making the changes outside of the ksession and referencing the facthandler to modify? Is one method considered 'cleaner'? Thanks, Bobby -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/2b86c5f... ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:48:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Vincent LEGENDRE <vincent.legendre(a)eurodecision.com&lt;mailto: vincent.legendre(a)eurodecision.com&gt;&lt;mailto: vincent.legendre@eurodecision.com<mailto:vincent.legendre@eurodecision.com >>> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; Message-ID: <1c470056-3677-4bd2-a1eb-368610b51999(a)confiance.eurodecision.fr <mailto:1c470056-3677-4bd2-a1eb-368610b51999@confiance.eurodecision.fr ><mailto:1c470056-3677-4bd2-a1eb-368610b51999@confiance.eurodecision.fr <mailto:1c470056-3677-4bd2-a1eb-368610b51999@confiance.eurodecision.fr>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) ----- Mail original ----- De: "Michael Anstis" <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: michael.anstis@gmail.com><mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com<mailto: michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; ?: "Rules Users List" <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; Envoy?: Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 Objet: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su < sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: sean.x.su@gmail.com><mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com<mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com>> > wrote: It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.jboss.org/pipermail/rules-users/attachments/20120426/29fa984... ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:06:57 -0400 From: Sean Su <sean.x.su@gmail.com<mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com><mailto: sean.x.su@gmail.com<mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com>>> Subject: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor To: Rules Users List <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; Message-ID: <-6645870489207221519@unknownmsgid> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created, it should not be modified as it happened in the past. So I am trying to avoid setters if possible. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE < vincent.legendre@eurodecision.com<mailto:vincent.legendre@eurodecision.com ><mailto:vincent.legendre@eurodecision.com<mailto: vincent.legendre(a)eurodecision.com&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote: JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) ------------------------------ *De: *"Michael Anstis" <michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: michael.anstis@gmail.com><mailto:michael.anstis@gmail.com<mailto: michael.anstis(a)gmail.com&gt;&gt;&gt; *?: *"Rules Users List" <rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&lt;mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto: rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org&gt;&gt;&gt; *Envoy?: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su <sean.x.su(a)gmail.com&lt;mailto: sean.x.su@gmail.com><mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com<mailto:sean.x.su@gmail.com>>> wrote: > It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from > the java class that has the default non argument constructor in > Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. > This would force us to provide setters to the object. > > Is this a true statement? > > Thanks > > Sean > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org><mailto: rules-users@lists.jboss.org<mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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