On 2011/10/4 1:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: Hi everyone. I am using Guvnor 5.2, and I need to make some operations from my application. Specifically, I need to make two operations remotely: - List Snapshots, as it is possible to list packages. - Create a new snapshot from a package. Is this possible to make these operation through rest API? Hi, Start from 5.3, Guvnor Packages are fully versioned. I would recommend you to use a vesioned package instead of package snapshot. Package snapshot will be deprecated in the future. Cheers, Jervis Thanks, Demian _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing listrules-users@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Hi again. I have been able to use guvnor package versions with some success.. Is there any service I can call to create a new version? I have checked that it seems to change the package version when you click on "save package". Can I have some URL to achieve it automatically?

Thanks Demian On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Demian Calcaprina <calcacuervo(a)gmail.com <mailto:calcacuervo@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks Jervis. I currently use Guvnor 5.2, and saw that I can use version so I will try to use them. - Is there something I will be missing about versions, by using 5.2? - Do you know when a new version is created? With Snapshots, I could choose when to create a new one. How about versions? Thanks! Demian 2011/10/3 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> On 2011/10/4 1:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: > Hi everyone. I am using Guvnor 5.2, and I need to make some > operations from my application. > > Specifically, I need to make two operations remotely: > - List Snapshots, as it is possible to list packages. > - Create a new snapshot from a package. > > Is this possible to make these operation through rest API? > Hi, Start from 5.3, Guvnor Packages are fully versioned. I would recommend you to use a vesioned package instead of package snapshot. Package snapshot will be deprecated in the future. Cheers, Jervis > Thanks, > > Demian > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Jervis, so you are trying to deprecate SNAPSHOTS in favor of Versions? I don't think they address the same issue. With SNAPSHOTS you can put different names to different "moments" of a package.

More important, SNAPSHOTS were created and updated on demand and not every time you update the package, so you can update a SNAPSHOT definition adding or changing its assets and you don't need to update your applications.

They always read the package using same SNAPSHOT name. Using versions, I need to be careful in change my applications when I want them to use some modifications I have in my package. I mean, I also see package versioning as something good, but I'm not sure if versions could replace SNAPSHOT. Are you planning to add some way to put a name to a particular group of versioned assets? Best Regards, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Esteban Aliverti - Developer @ http://www.plugtree.com <http://www.plugtree.com> - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com 2011/10/8 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> On 2011/10/7 9:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: > Hi again. > > I have been able to use guvnor package versions with some success.. > > Is there any service I can call to create a new version? I have > checked that it seems to change the package version when you > click on "save package". Can I have some URL to achieve it > automatically? > Hi, Sorry for the late response, I was in holiday. There is no REST service to create a package version as this is not needed. A package version is created automatically when your package gets updated (through Guvnor UI or through REST). Cheers, Jervis > Thanks > > Demian > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Demian Calcaprina > <calcacuervo(a)gmail.com <mailto:calcacuervo@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Thanks Jervis. > > I currently use Guvnor 5.2, and saw that I can use version so > I will try to use them. > > - Is there something I will be missing about versions, by > using 5.2? > - Do you know when a new version is created? With Snapshots, > I could choose when to create a new one. How about versions? > > Thanks! > > Demian > > 2011/10/3 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> > > On 2011/10/4 1:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: >> Hi everyone. I am using Guvnor 5.2, and I need to make >> some operations from my application. >> >> Specifically, I need to make two operations remotely: >> - List Snapshots, as it is possible to list packages. >> - Create a new snapshot from a package. >> >> Is this possible to make these operation through rest API? >> > Hi, > > Start from 5.3, Guvnor Packages are fully versioned. I > would recommend you to use a vesioned package instead of > package snapshot. Package snapshot will be deprecated in > the future. > > Cheers, > Jervis >> Thanks, >> >> Demian >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Hi Jervis, When you build a SNAPSHOT with an existing name (Guvnor shows you all the SNAPSHOTS and lets you select an existing one), the SNAPSHOT is updated (maybe under the hood the SNAPSHOT gets removed and a new one is created). So, if you have an application pointing to the SNAPSHOT you can update the assets it uses without modifying anything in the application itself.

Best Regards, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Esteban Aliverti - Developer @ http://www.plugtree.com <http://www.plugtree.com> - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com 2011/10/8 Jervis Liu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> Hi Esteban, The package snapshot wont be gone in the near future. One reason is for backward compatibility. Another concern is that we still need to find out if there are any use cases that package version can not cover. In this case, your input is exactly what we are looking for. Please see my comment in-line below. On 2011/10/8 17:09, Esteban Aliverti wrote: > Jervis, so you are trying to deprecate SNAPSHOTS in favor of > Versions? I don't think they address the same issue. With > SNAPSHOTS you can put different names to different "moments" of a > package. We don't have this yet, but I guess this will be a very useful feature. I.e. a named package version or package version alias. > More important, SNAPSHOTS were created and updated on demand and > not every time you update the package, so you can update a > SNAPSHOT definition adding or changing its assets and you don't > need to update your applications. Not sure how you can do this? a SNAPSHOT is a read-only copy of package. You can not change its configuration nor you can add or change its asset. > They always read the package using same SNAPSHOT name. > Using versions, I need to be careful in change my applications > when I want them to use some modifications I have in my package. > I mean, I also see package versioning as something good, but I'm > not sure if versions could replace SNAPSHOT. Are you planning to > add some way to put a name to a particular group of versioned assets? > > Best Regards, > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > Esteban Aliverti > - Developer @ http://www.plugtree.com <http://www.plugtree.com> > - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com > > > 2011/10/8 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> > > On 2011/10/7 9:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: >> Hi again. >> >> I have been able to use guvnor package versions with some >> success.. >> >> Is there any service I can call to create a new version? I >> have checked that it seems to change the package version >> when you click on "save package". Can I have some URL to >> achieve it automatically? >> > Hi, > > Sorry for the late response, I was in holiday. There is no > REST service to create a package version as this is not > needed. A package version is created automatically when your > package gets updated (through Guvnor UI or through REST). > > Cheers, > Jervis > >> Thanks >> >> Demian >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Demian Calcaprina >> <calcacuervo(a)gmail.com <mailto:calcacuervo@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Thanks Jervis. >> >> I currently use Guvnor 5.2, and saw that I can use >> version so I will try to use them. >> >> - Is there something I will be missing about versions, >> by using 5.2? >> - Do you know when a new version is created? With >> Snapshots, I could choose when to create a new one. How >> about versions? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Demian >> >> 2011/10/3 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> >> >> On 2011/10/4 1:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: >>> Hi everyone. I am using Guvnor 5.2, and I need to >>> make some operations from my application. >>> >>> Specifically, I need to make two operations remotely: >>> - List Snapshots, as it is possible to list packages. >>> - Create a new snapshot from a package. >>> >>> Is this possible to make these operation through >>> rest API? >>> >> Hi, >> >> Start from 5.3, Guvnor Packages are fully versioned. >> I would recommend you to use a vesioned package >> instead of package snapshot. Package snapshot will >> be deprecated in the future. >> >> Cheers, >> Jervis >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Demian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org >> <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

To rebuild a SNAPSHOT: click in the package -> go to "edit" tab -> click on "Create Snapshot for deployment" -> Choose an existing snapshot from the radio-button list (you must have at least one previous snapshot) -> Click on "Create new snapshot"

This will replace the old version of the snapshot with a new version with the same name containing the current state of the package. Best Regards, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Esteban Aliverti - Developer @ http://www.plugtree.com <http://www.plugtree.com> - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Jervis Liu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> wrote: Esteban Aliverti wrote: > Hi Jervis, > When you build a SNAPSHOT with an existing name (Guvnor shows you all > the SNAPSHOTS and lets you select an existing one), the SNAPSHOT is > updated (maybe under the hood the SNAPSHOT gets removed and a new one > is created). So, if you have an application pointing to the SNAPSHOT > you can update the assets it uses without modifying anything in the > application itself. > Hi Esteban, I can not find any places in Guvnor UI that allows you to rebuild a snapshot. Are you referring to the Working Set instead? > Best Regards, > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > Esteban Aliverti > - Developer @ http://www.plugtree.com <http://www.plugtree.com> > - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com > > > 2011/10/8 Jervis Liu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com> <mailto:jliu@redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>>> > > Hi Esteban, > > The package snapshot wont be gone in the near future. One reason > is for backward compatibility. Another concern is that we still > need to find out if there are any use cases that package version > can not cover. In this case, your input is exactly what we are > looking for. Please see my comment in-line below. > > On 2011/10/8 17:09, Esteban Aliverti wrote: >> Jervis, so you are trying to deprecate SNAPSHOTS in favor of >> Versions? I don't think they address the same issue. With >> SNAPSHOTS you can put different names to different "moments" of a >> package. > We don't have this yet, but I guess this will be a very useful > feature. I.e. a named package version or package version alias. >> More important, SNAPSHOTS were created and updated on demand and >> not every time you update the package, so you can update a >> SNAPSHOT definition adding or changing its assets and you don't >> need to update your applications. > Not sure how you can do this? a SNAPSHOT is a read-only copy of > package. You can not change its configuration nor you can add or > change its asset. >> They always read the package using same SNAPSHOT name. >> Using versions, I need to be careful in change my applications >> when I want them to use some modifications I have in my package. >> I mean, I also see package versioning as something good, but I'm >> not sure if versions could replace SNAPSHOT. Are you planning to >> add some way to put a name to a particular group of versioned assets? >> >> Best Regards, >> >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >> >> Esteban Aliverti >> - Developer @ http://www.plugtree.com <http://www.plugtree.com> >> - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com >> >> >> 2011/10/8 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com> <mailto:jliu@redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>>> >> >> On 2011/10/7 9:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: >>> Hi again. >>> >>> I have been able to use guvnor package versions with some >>> success.. >>> >>> Is there any service I can call to create a new version? I >>> have checked that it seems to change the package version >>> when you click on "save package". Can I have some URL to >>> achieve it automatically? >>> >> Hi, >> >> Sorry for the late response, I was in holiday. There is no >> REST service to create a package version as this is not >> needed. A package version is created automatically when your >> package gets updated (through Guvnor UI or through REST). >> >> Cheers, >> Jervis >> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Demian >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Demian Calcaprina >>> <calcacuervo(a)gmail.com <mailto:calcacuervo@gmail.com> <mailto:calcacuervo@gmail.com <mailto:calcacuervo@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Jervis. >>> >>> I currently use Guvnor 5.2, and saw that I can use >>> version so I will try to use them. >>> >>> - Is there something I will be missing about versions, >>> by using 5.2? >>> - Do you know when a new version is created? With >>> Snapshots, I could choose when to create a new one. How >>> about versions? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Demian >>> >>> 2011/10/3 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com> <mailto:jliu@redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>>> >>> >>> On 2011/10/4 1:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: >>>> Hi everyone. I am using Guvnor 5.2, and I need to >>>> make some operations from my application. >>>> >>>> Specifically, I need to make two operations remotely: >>>> - List Snapshots, as it is possible to list packages. >>>> - Create a new snapshot from a package. >>>> >>>> Is this possible to make these operation through >>>> rest API? >>>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Start from 5.3, Guvnor Packages are fully versioned. >>> I would recommend you to use a vesioned package >>> instead of package snapshot. Package snapshot will >>> be deprecated in the future. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jervis >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Demian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> rules-users mailing list >>>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> >>> <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org>> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Jervis, thanks for the response! When is a package updated? In 5.2, I could make version to be updates through UI, explicitly using "Save Changes". Is there another way to achieve it?

Thanks again, Demian 2011/10/8 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> On 2011/10/7 9:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: > Hi again. > > I have been able to use guvnor package versions with some success.. > > Is there any service I can call to create a new version? I have > checked that it seems to change the package version when you > click on "save package". Can I have some URL to achieve it > automatically? > Hi, Sorry for the late response, I was in holiday. There is no REST service to create a package version as this is not needed. A package version is created automatically when your package gets updated (through Guvnor UI or through REST). Cheers, Jervis > Thanks > > Demian > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Demian Calcaprina > <calcacuervo(a)gmail.com <mailto:calcacuervo@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Thanks Jervis. > > I currently use Guvnor 5.2, and saw that I can use version so > I will try to use them. > > - Is there something I will be missing about versions, by > using 5.2? > - Do you know when a new version is created? With Snapshots, > I could choose when to create a new one. How about versions? > > Thanks! > > Demian > > 2011/10/3 jliu <jliu(a)redhat.com <mailto:jliu@redhat.com>> > > On 2011/10/4 1:54, Demian Calcaprina wrote: >> Hi everyone. I am using Guvnor 5.2, and I need to make >> some operations from my application. >> >> Specifically, I need to make two operations remotely: >> - List Snapshots, as it is possible to list packages. >> - Create a new snapshot from a package. >> >> Is this possible to make these operation through rest API? >> > Hi, > > Start from 5.3, Guvnor Packages are fully versioned. I > would recommend you to use a vesioned package instead of > package snapshot. Package snapshot will be deprecated in > the future. > > Cheers, > Jervis >> Thanks, >> >> Demian >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:rules-users@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ rules-users mailing list rules-users(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users