My 3.1 app has a mechanism that allowed the user to change the salience of some rules before running them, before loading up WorkingMemory. This was quite simple, rule.getSalience() returned a rule's int salience value and rule.setSalience(int) set it. Now in 4.0 I see salience is no longer just an int, but a Salience object with a simple constructor and complicated getValue(Tuple,WorkingMemory) method to access the int value. It appears to be still easy to set the salience of a rule: rule.setSalience( new SalienceInteger(int)) but getting the int salience from a Salience object seems to have been removed from joe-blow coder's reach. I would be very grateful if someone would provide me with an example that gets the int salience associated with a rule. I have no idea where or why I need to get the Tuple and WorkingMemory. Can I just pass nulls in for those two arguments? Thanks, Scott