Specifically a routine like boolean isSuperType(Type super, Type, sub); note Type, not Class<?> On Jan 28, 2009, at 21:22, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/typesValues.html#4.10 Subtyping I am looking for an ASL 2 / BSD implementation of the subtyping resolution algorithm in Java. I am thinking Harmony might have one. Anybody knows? _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

If I can't find an other alternative that would surely be of help yes :) Do you know how much of the subtype rules you have implemented? The one that sounded non trivial to me were around detecting that generic are supertypes of others: - containment and equivalence - capture conversion - intersection types - management of bounds (using the language of the JSL) On Jan 29, 2009, at 05:49, Mark Hobson wrote: > I've written a small utility library that provides methods to work > with Types, specifically it contains such a method isAssignable(Type > supertype, Type type) that should satisfy your requirements. > > I've been considering open-sourcing it so would be happy to do so if > you were interested? > > Cheers, > > Mark > > 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >> >> Specifically a routine like >> boolean isSuperType(Type super, Type, sub); >> note Type, not Class<?> >> >> On Jan 28, 2009, at 21:22, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: >> >> >> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/typesValues.html#4.10 >> >> Subtyping >> >> I am looking for an ASL 2 / BSD implementation of the subtyping >> resolution >> algorithm in Java. >> >> I am thinking Harmony might have one. >> >> Anybody knows? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> >>

Cool, that's already a nice start. Let me see if I find something. Would you be OK to contribute it under the ASL 2.0 license to us? On Jan 29, 2009, at 09:44, Mark Hobson wrote: > I haven't gone into supporting type variables, hence I don't perform > type capturing or inference yet, although I would be interested in > adding this. For an example of what is currently implemented, the > following are from the tests: > > Number <: Integer > Object <: Integer > List <: List<Integer> > Collection<Integer> <: List<Integer> > Collection<Integer> <: ArrayList<Integer> > List<Integer> !<: Set<Integer> > List<Number> !<: List<Integer> > List<?> <: List<Integer> > List<? extends Number> <: List<Number> > List<? extends Number> <: List<Integer> > List<? extends Number> !<: List<Object> > List<? super Number> <: List<Number> > List<? super Number> <: List<Object> > List<? super Number> !<: List<Integer> > List<Integer> <: IntegerArrayList > > Let me know if you find any existing libraries since I use this in my > other projects. If there's nothing out there then open-sourcing this > would stop people from having to reinvent the wheel. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >> If I can't find an other alternative that would surely be of help >> yes :) >> >> Do you know how much of the subtype rules you have implemented? >> >> The one that sounded non trivial to me were around detecting that >> generic >> are supertypes of others: >> - containment and equivalence >> - capture conversion >> - intersection types >> - management of bounds >> (using the language of the JSL) >> >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 05:49, Mark Hobson wrote: >> >>> I've written a small utility library that provides methods to work >>> with Types, specifically it contains such a method >>> isAssignable(Type >>> supertype, Type type) that should satisfy your requirements. >>> >>> I've been considering open-sourcing it so would be happy to do so >>> if >>> you were interested? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>> >>>> Specifically a routine like >>>> boolean isSuperType(Type super, Type, sub); >>>> note Type, not Class<?> >>>> >>>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 21:22, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/typesValues.html#4.10 >>>> >>>> Subtyping >>>> >>>> I am looking for an ASL 2 / BSD implementation of the subtyping >>>> resolution >>>> algorithm in Java. >>>> >>>> I am thinking Harmony might have one. >>>> >>>> Anybody knows? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

Cool, that's already a nice start. Let me see if I find something. Would you be OK to contribute it under the ASL 2.0 license to us? On Jan 29, 2009, at 09:44, Mark Hobson wrote: > I haven't gone into supporting type variables, hence I don't perform > type capturing or inference yet, although I would be interested in > adding this. For an example of what is currently implemented, the > following are from the tests: > > Number <: Integer > Object <: Integer > List <: List<Integer> > Collection<Integer> <: List<Integer> > Collection<Integer> <: ArrayList<Integer> > List<Integer> !<: Set<Integer> > List<Number> !<: List<Integer> > List<?> <: List<Integer> > List<? extends Number> <: List<Number> > List<? extends Number> <: List<Integer> > List<? extends Number> !<: List<Object> > List<? super Number> <: List<Number> > List<? super Number> <: List<Object> > List<? super Number> !<: List<Integer> > List<Integer> <: IntegerArrayList > > Let me know if you find any existing libraries since I use this in my > other projects. If there's nothing out there then open-sourcing this > would stop people from having to reinvent the wheel. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >> >> If I can't find an other alternative that would surely be of help yes :) >> >> Do you know how much of the subtype rules you have implemented? >> >> The one that sounded non trivial to me were around detecting that generic >> are supertypes of others: >> - containment and equivalence >> - capture conversion >> - intersection types >> - management of bounds >> (using the language of the JSL) >> >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 05:49, Mark Hobson wrote: >> >>> I've written a small utility library that provides methods to work >>> with Types, specifically it contains such a method isAssignable(Type >>> supertype, Type type) that should satisfy your requirements. >>> >>> I've been considering open-sourcing it so would be happy to do so if >>> you were interested? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>> >>>> Specifically a routine like >>>> boolean isSuperType(Type super, Type, sub); >>>> note Type, not Class<?> >>>> >>>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 21:22, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/typesValues.html#4.10 >>>> >>>> Subtyping >>>> >>>> I am looking for an ASL 2 / BSD implementation of the subtyping >>>> resolution >>>> algorithm in Java. >>>> >>>> I am thinking Harmony might have one. >>>> >>>> Anybody knows? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>> >>>> >> >>

That's fine, you can go host it on google-code under the ASL 2. That way we can use it as a source level or jar level dependency. It would be nice to get commit access so we can participate in enhancing the support coverage. Jboss.org might have some benefits as a forge but the .org team is very busy at the moment, so creating a new project would be a bit low in priority. Google code is quite nice and clean. BTW before dropping the code, make sure you have the copyright rights (if you developed that for a company, you might have to ask them). Thanks! Emmanuel On Jan 30, 2009, at 05:04, Mark Hobson wrote: > ASL 2.0 is fine with me. I was thinking about hosting it somewhere > like Google Code since there's a few open-source projects that I've > seen which could benefit from it. Let me know, I can create a project > and you can give it a spin. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > 2009/1/30 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >> >> Cool, that's already a nice start. >> Let me see if I find something. >> >> Would you be OK to contribute it under the ASL 2.0 license to us? >> >> On Jan 29, 2009, at 09:44, Mark Hobson wrote: >> >>> I haven't gone into supporting type variables, hence I don't perform >>> type capturing or inference yet, although I would be interested in >>> adding this. For an example of what is currently implemented, the >>> following are from the tests: >>> >>> Number <: Integer >>> Object <: Integer >>> List <: List<Integer> >>> Collection<Integer> <: List<Integer> >>> Collection<Integer> <: ArrayList<Integer> >>> List<Integer> !<: Set<Integer> >>> List<Number> !<: List<Integer> >>> List<?> <: List<Integer> >>> List<? extends Number> <: List<Number> >>> List<? extends Number> <: List<Integer> >>> List<? extends Number> !<: List<Object> >>> List<? super Number> <: List<Number> >>> List<? super Number> <: List<Object> >>> List<? super Number> !<: List<Integer> >>> List<Integer> <: IntegerArrayList >>> >>> Let me know if you find any existing libraries since I use this in my >>> other projects. If there's nothing out there then open-sourcing this >>> would stop people from having to reinvent the wheel. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>> >>>> If I can't find an other alternative that would surely be of help yes >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Do you know how much of the subtype rules you have implemented? >>>> >>>> The one that sounded non trivial to me were around detecting that >>>> generic >>>> are supertypes of others: >>>> - containment and equivalence >>>> - capture conversion >>>> - intersection types >>>> - management of bounds >>>> (using the language of the JSL) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 05:49, Mark Hobson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've written a small utility library that provides methods to work >>>>> with Types, specifically it contains such a method isAssignable(Type >>>>> supertype, Type type) that should satisfy your requirements. >>>>> >>>>> I've been considering open-sourcing it so would be happy to do so if >>>>> you were interested? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>>>> >>>>>> Specifically a routine like >>>>>> boolean isSuperType(Type super, Type, sub); >>>>>> note Type, not Class<?> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 21:22, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/typesValues.html#4.10 >>>>>> >>>>>> Subtyping >>>>>> >>>>>> I am looking for an ASL 2 / BSD implementation of the subtyping >>>>>> resolution >>>>>> algorithm in Java. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am thinking Harmony might have one. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anybody knows? >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>

all good. On Jan 30, 2009, at 09:46, Mark Hobson wrote: > Cool, I'll aim to create the project as soon as I get a free moment. > Extra hands would be appreciated so I can't see a problem with giving > you commit access. Copyright isn't an issue as I work for my own > company :) > > I'll post the URL once it's up there. Likely to be after the weekend > if that's alright? > > Cheers, > > Mark > > 2009/1/30 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >> >> That's fine, you can go host it on google-code under the ASL 2. That way >> we >> can use it as a source level or jar level dependency. >> >> It would be nice to get commit access so we can participate in enhancing >> the >> support coverage. >> >> Jboss.org might have some benefits as a forge but the .org team is very >> busy >> at the moment, so creating a new project would be a bit low in priority. >> Google code is quite nice and clean. >> >> BTW before dropping the code, make sure you have the copyright rights (if >> you developed that for a company, you might have to ask them). >> >> Thanks! >> >> Emmanuel >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 05:04, Mark Hobson wrote: >> >>> ASL 2.0 is fine with me. I was thinking about hosting it somewhere >>> like Google Code since there's a few open-source projects that I've >>> seen which could benefit from it. Let me know, I can create a project >>> and you can give it a spin. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> 2009/1/30 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>> >>>> Cool, that's already a nice start. >>>> Let me see if I find something. >>>> >>>> Would you be OK to contribute it under the ASL 2.0 license to us? >>>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 09:44, Mark Hobson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I haven't gone into supporting type variables, hence I don't perform >>>>> type capturing or inference yet, although I would be interested in >>>>> adding this. For an example of what is currently implemented, the >>>>> following are from the tests: >>>>> >>>>> Number <: Integer >>>>> Object <: Integer >>>>> List <: List<Integer> >>>>> Collection<Integer> <: List<Integer> >>>>> Collection<Integer> <: ArrayList<Integer> >>>>> List<Integer> !<: Set<Integer> >>>>> List<Number> !<: List<Integer> >>>>> List<?> <: List<Integer> >>>>> List<? extends Number> <: List<Number> >>>>> List<? extends Number> <: List<Integer> >>>>> List<? extends Number> !<: List<Object> >>>>> List<? super Number> <: List<Number> >>>>> List<? super Number> <: List<Object> >>>>> List<? super Number> !<: List<Integer> >>>>> List<Integer> <: IntegerArrayList >>>>> >>>>> Let me know if you find any existing libraries since I use this in my >>>>> other projects. If there's nothing out there then open-sourcing this >>>>> would stop people from having to reinvent the wheel. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>>>> >>>>>> If I can't find an other alternative that would surely be of help yes >>>>>> :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you know how much of the subtype rules you have implemented? >>>>>> >>>>>> The one that sounded non trivial to me were around detecting that >>>>>> generic >>>>>> are supertypes of others: >>>>>> - containment and equivalence >>>>>> - capture conversion >>>>>> - intersection types >>>>>> - management of bounds >>>>>> (using the language of the JSL) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 05:49, Mark Hobson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've written a small utility library that provides methods to work >>>>>>> with Types, specifically it contains such a method isAssignable(Type >>>>>>> supertype, Type type) that should satisfy your requirements. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been considering open-sourcing it so would be happy to do so if >>>>>>> you were interested? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Specifically a routine like >>>>>>>> boolean isSuperType(Type super, Type, sub); >>>>>>>> note Type, not Class<?> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 21:22, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/typesValues.html#4.10 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subtyping >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am looking for an ASL 2 / BSD implementation of the subtyping >>>>>>>> resolution >>>>>>>> algorithm in Java. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am thinking Harmony might have one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anybody knows? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>>>>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>

Cool :) We will add jType to the Bean Validation RI Alpha2 (one release after the first). http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/hibernate/browse/BVAL-111 On Feb 2, 2009, at 23:40, Mark Hobson wrote: > Okay, I've created the project here: > > http://code.google.com/p/jtype/ > > The method you're after is TypeUtils.isAssignable. I'm interested in > fleshing out this library in future, keeping the focus on pure type > operations. I'd like to implement full type inference and type > capturing in line with the JLS as I've had a requirement for this in > the past. Do let me know if you have any comments or suggestions. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > 2009/1/30 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >> >> all good. >> >> On Jan 30, 2009, at 09:46, Mark Hobson wrote: >> >>> Cool, I'll aim to create the project as soon as I get a free moment. >>> Extra hands would be appreciated so I can't see a problem with giving >>> you commit access. Copyright isn't an issue as I work for my own >>> company :) >>> >>> I'll post the URL once it's up there. Likely to be after the weekend >>> if that's alright? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> 2009/1/30 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>> >>>> That's fine, you can go host it on google-code under the ASL 2. That >>>> way >>>> we >>>> can use it as a source level or jar level dependency. >>>> >>>> It would be nice to get commit access so we can participate in >>>> enhancing >>>> the >>>> support coverage. >>>> >>>> Jboss.org might have some benefits as a forge but the .org team is very >>>> busy >>>> at the moment, so creating a new project would be a bit low in >>>> priority. >>>> Google code is quite nice and clean. >>>> >>>> BTW before dropping the code, make sure you have the copyright rights >>>> (if >>>> you developed that for a company, you might have to ask them). >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Emmanuel >>>> >>>> On Jan 30, 2009, at 05:04, Mark Hobson wrote: >>>> >>>>> ASL 2.0 is fine with me. I was thinking about hosting it somewhere >>>>> like Google Code since there's a few open-source projects that I've >>>>> seen which could benefit from it. Let me know, I can create a project >>>>> and you can give it a spin. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> 2009/1/30 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>>>> >>>>>> Cool, that's already a nice start. >>>>>> Let me see if I find something. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would you be OK to contribute it under the ASL 2.0 license to us? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 09:44, Mark Hobson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't gone into supporting type variables, hence I don't perform >>>>>>> type capturing or inference yet, although I would be interested in >>>>>>> adding this. For an example of what is currently implemented, the >>>>>>> following are from the tests: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Number <: Integer >>>>>>> Object <: Integer >>>>>>> List <: List<Integer> >>>>>>> Collection<Integer> <: List<Integer> >>>>>>> Collection<Integer> <: ArrayList<Integer> >>>>>>> List<Integer> !<: Set<Integer> >>>>>>> List<Number> !<: List<Integer> >>>>>>> List<?> <: List<Integer> >>>>>>> List<? extends Number> <: List<Number> >>>>>>> List<? extends Number> <: List<Integer> >>>>>>> List<? extends Number> !<: List<Object> >>>>>>> List<? super Number> <: List<Number> >>>>>>> List<? super Number> <: List<Object> >>>>>>> List<? super Number> !<: List<Integer> >>>>>>> List<Integer> <: IntegerArrayList >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me know if you find any existing libraries since I use this in >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> other projects. If there's nothing out there then open-sourcing >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> would stop people from having to reinvent the wheel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I can't find an other alternative that would surely be of help >>>>>>>> yes >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you know how much of the subtype rules you have implemented? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The one that sounded non trivial to me were around detecting that >>>>>>>> generic >>>>>>>> are supertypes of others: >>>>>>>> - containment and equivalence >>>>>>>> - capture conversion >>>>>>>> - intersection types >>>>>>>> - management of bounds >>>>>>>> (using the language of the JSL) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2009, at 05:49, Mark Hobson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've written a small utility library that provides methods to work >>>>>>>>> with Types, specifically it contains such a method >>>>>>>>> isAssignable(Type >>>>>>>>> supertype, Type type) that should satisfy your requirements. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been considering open-sourcing it so would be happy to do so >>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> you were interested? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2009/1/29 Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Specifically a routine like >>>>>>>>>> boolean isSuperType(Type super, Type, sub); >>>>>>>>>> note Type, not Class<?> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2009, at 21:22, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/typesValues.html#4.10 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Subtyping >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am looking for an ASL 2 / BSD implementation of the subtyping >>>>>>>>>> resolution >>>>>>>>>> algorithm in Java. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am thinking Harmony might have one. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Anybody knows? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list >>>>>>>>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>>>>>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>