For me its not so much about "the right kind of people". More just
accountability. But if some form of login in needed to use Gitter, that's
enough for me. Sounded like the other option was "allow anonymous", which
I wanted to avoid.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:41 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 17:27, Yoann Rodiere
<yoann(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
>
> I don't see why we should force people to have a GitHub account,
considering there are other means of logging into Gitter.
Ok.
>
> As to getting the right type of people, I'm not sure it's relevant. Most
people are likely to have one, and those who don't are likely to not have
one for political reasons (think free software extremists) rather than
because they aren't tech savvy enough: while the "hibernate" naming might
confuse users looking for information about grizzly bears, I doubt my
grandmother, my 7-year-old nephew or even my non-software-engineer of a
wife would end up on Gitter by mistake.
Well since that's obvious, clearly I was referring to a different way
of cathegorizing people joining@ not by age or expertise in technology
but in having reasonable expectations and willing to do some research
before bothering us all.
You probably weren't around yet, but Hibernate has had hard times in
which it was "victim of its own success": just too many
kinda-interested people making a ton of basic questions that could be
easily solved otherwise.
Some "barriers" we have in place have made it manageable; of course I
can't tell if it's all merit of the barriers of entry or just people
coming in lower volumes with better intentions, but I'm confident that
some of the barriers we have have helped to keep some sanity (e.g.
login on #hibernate-dev on IRC requiring an account).
Assuming the new chat platform takes off, there's a risk it might be
too successful as well. But I guess we'll see, or let's use a very
bad chat platform so to keep people from coming :P
>
>
> Yoann Rodière
> Hibernate NoORM Team
> yoann(a)hibernate.org
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 18:02, Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 at 16:02, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
>> >
>> > What is it a conscious decision to not require a GitHub account to
join these rooms? I just noticed that is a toggle-option in the room's
settings also.
>>
>> I don't remember. We created these rooms as an experiment in 2014..
>> Yoann created some more rooms recently.
>>
>> Should we enforce people to have a Github account? I'd like that, I
>> think it would better nudge towards getting the right type of people
>> to join.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sanne
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 6:17 AM Guillaume Smet <
guillaume.smet(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 11:35 AM Sanne Grinovero <
sanne(a)hibernate.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > If one wants a lot of features then clearly only Slack is the way
to
>> >> > go. Not saying we should go with Slack, just that we'll need
to be
>> >> > patient and we'll always be short of some features - if
that's not
>> >> > acceptable then only Slack will make you happy.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> TBH, I don't care about fancy features. Gitter is OK for me but
yeah
not
>> >> having sound is really annoying.
>> >>
>> >> I might miss notifications from time to time.
>> >>
>> >> In any case, it will mostly be a problem for you all if you ping me
:).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > BTW the issue you linked to suggests the native clients don't
have
>> >> > this specific problem.. might want to try that?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I prefer to have it in the browser where I do most of my
interactions with
>> >> people.
>> >>
>> >> And AFAIK, Yoann wrote they were only packaged as deb (and not very
excited
>> >> about compiling it).
>> >>
>> >> BTW, tbh, I'm a bit worried GitLab has only one dev on it if they
want to
>> >> become a player in this area. They certainly have some work to do to
catch
>> >> up with others.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Guillaume
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