2:43 p.m.
Hi,
When creating a new HHH issue, there is a link "...should generally be
accompanied by a test case" but it directs to the JIRA main page.
Can we let it point to the test case template repo instead:
https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates
Thanks,
--Gunnar
2:52 p.m.
The link target is http://www.hibernate.org/issuetracker.html#testcases.
That's not the "JIRA main page".
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
Hi,
When creating a new HHH issue, there is a link "...should generally be
accompanied by a test case" but it directs to the JIRA main page.
Can we let it point to the test case template repo instead:
https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates
Thanks,
--Gunnar
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2:53 p.m.
But for some reason it directs me back to JIra. Even just clicking that
link in the email does. I wonder if someone set up a bad redirect on the
hibernate.org website for that?
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
The link target is
http://www.hibernate.org/issuetracker.html#testcases.
That's not the "JIRA main page".
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When creating a new HHH issue, there is a link "...should generally be
> accompanied by a test case" but it directs to the JIRA main page.
>
> Can we let it point to the test case template repo instead:
>
> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Gunnar
> _______________________________________________
> hibernate-dev mailing list
> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
3:16 p.m.
It looks like that may just be an invalid URL. It looks like the content
that was at that URL was not migrated over in the website migration.
This ties in with an uneasiness that has been growing on me tbh... We have
too many places users have to look for potential information. The
website, the JBoss wiki, the GitHub wiki, README.mds, CONTRIBUTING.mds.
It's hard to keep straight :)
Ideally a lot of this would live under hibernate.org website umbrella. But
to be frank, I find developing content for hibernate.org and in.relation.to
to be cumbersome. We can get into "why" in a separate subject.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:53 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
But for some reason it directs me back to JIra. Even just clicking
that
link in the email does. I wonder if someone set up a bad redirect on the
hibernate.org website for that?
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
> The link target is http://www.hibernate.org/issuetracker.html#testcases.
> That's not the "JIRA main page".
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When creating a new HHH issue, there is a link "...should generally be
>> accompanied by a test case" but it directs to the JIRA main page.
>>
>> Can we let it point to the test case template repo instead:
>>
>> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --Gunnar
>> _______________________________________________
>> hibernate-dev mailing list
>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>>
>
3:41 p.m.
2015-10-30 15:16 GMT+01:00 Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>:
It looks like that may just be an invalid URL.
Yes, the link should point to
https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates instead.
There are the test case templates and also a description of their
usage.
It looks like the content
that was at that URL was not migrated over in the website migration.
This ties in with an uneasiness that has been growing on me tbh... We have
too many places users have to look for potential information. The website,
the JBoss wiki, the GitHub wiki, README.mds, CONTRIBUTING.mds. It's hard to
keep straight :)
Ideally a lot of this would live under hibernate.org website umbrella. But
to be frank, I find developing content for hibernate.org and in.relation.to
to be cumbersome. We can get into "why" in a separate subject.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:53 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
>
> But for some reason it directs me back to JIra. Even just clicking that
> link in the email does. I wonder if someone set up a bad redirect on the
> hibernate.org website for that?
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> The link target is http://www.hibernate.org/issuetracker.html#testcases.
>> That's not the "JIRA main page".
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> When creating a new HHH issue, there is a link "...should generally be
>>> accompanied by a test case" but it directs to the JIRA main page.
>>>
>>> Can we let it point to the test case template repo instead:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --Gunnar
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> hibernate-dev mailing list
>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
3:49 p.m.
But that was not the purpose of the content at the old link. Yes the
templates are nice but that's not the whole picture of what makes a good
test case
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015, 9:41 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
2015-10-30 15:16 GMT+01:00 Steve Ebersole
<steve(a)hibernate.org>:
> It looks like that may just be an invalid URL.
Yes, the link should point to
https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates instead.
There are the test case templates and also a description of their
usage.
> It looks like the content
> that was at that URL was not migrated over in the website migration.
>
> This ties in with an uneasiness that has been growing on me tbh... We
have
> too many places users have to look for potential information. The
website,
> the JBoss wiki, the GitHub wiki, README.mds, CONTRIBUTING.mds. It's
hard to
> keep straight :)
>
> Ideally a lot of this would live under hibernate.org website umbrella.
But
> to be frank, I find developing content for hibernate.org and
in.relation.to
> to be cumbersome. We can get into "why" in a separate subject.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:53 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
>>
>> But for some reason it directs me back to JIra. Even just clicking that
>> link in the email does. I wonder if someone set up a bad redirect on
the
>> hibernate.org website for that?
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The link target is
http://www.hibernate.org/issuetracker.html#testcases.
>>> That's not the "JIRA main page".
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> When creating a new HHH issue, there is a link "...should generally
be
>>>> accompanied by a test case" but it directs to the JIRA main page.
>>>>
>>>> Can we let it point to the test case template repo instead:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> --Gunnar
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list
>>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
7:34 p.m.
We should add a page on hibernate.org describing the idea, and from
there point to github.
On 30 October 2015 at 07:49, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
But that was not the purpose of the content at the old link. Yes
the
templates are nice but that's not the whole picture of what makes a good
test case
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015, 9:41 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
> 2015-10-30 15:16 GMT+01:00 Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>:
> > It looks like that may just be an invalid URL.
>
> Yes, the link should point to
> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates instead.
> There are the test case templates and also a description of their
> usage.
>
>
> > It looks like the content
> > that was at that URL was not migrated over in the website migration.
> >
> > This ties in with an uneasiness that has been growing on me tbh... We
> have
> > too many places users have to look for potential information. The
> website,
> > the JBoss wiki, the GitHub wiki, README.mds, CONTRIBUTING.mds. It's
> hard to
> > keep straight :)
> >
> > Ideally a lot of this would live under hibernate.org website umbrella.
> But
> > to be frank, I find developing content for hibernate.org and
> in.relation.to
> > to be cumbersome. We can get into "why" in a separate subject.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:53 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> But for some reason it directs me back to JIra. Even just clicking that
> >> link in the email does. I wonder if someone set up a bad redirect on
> the
> >> hibernate.org website for that?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The link target is
> http://www.hibernate.org/issuetracker.html#testcases.
> >>> That's not the "JIRA main page".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM Gunnar Morling
<gunnar(a)hibernate.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> When creating a new HHH issue, there is a link "...should
generally be
> >>>> accompanied by a test case" but it directs to the JIRA main
page.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we let it point to the test case template repo instead:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> --Gunnar
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> hibernate-dev mailing list
> >>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
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8:40 p.m.
Thanks guys for taking this into consideration.
I've seen those negative tweets lately, regarding the JIRA issues and maybe helping
people provide more focused unit-tests is for the best.We could integrate those easily
into Hibernate main test suite and we can address them more rapidly too.
I need to think of a way to attract people to contribute to bug fixing.I was thinking of
something like a "Hibernate Academia" program for junior developers, who are
willing to contribute and learn something new.I could assist them throughout this endeavor
and maybe some of them could become long-term contributors too.
At first, maybe they could help up re-validate issues, so we can centralize the results
and prioritize them accordingly.
What do you guys think of this?
Vlad
On Friday, October 30, 2015 8:36 PM, Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org>
wrote:
We should add a page on hibernate.org describing the idea, and from
there point to github.
On 30 October 2015 at 07:49, Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
But that was not the purpose of the content at the old link. Yes
the
templates are nice but that's not the whole picture of what makes a good
test case
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015, 9:41 AM Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org> wrote:
> 2015-10-30 15:16 GMT+01:00 Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>:
> > It looks like that may just be an invalid URL.
>
> Yes, the link should point to
> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates instead.
> There are the test case templates and also a description of their
> usage.
>
>
> > It looks like the content
> > that was at that URL was not migrated over in the website migration.
> >
> > This ties in with an uneasiness that has been growing on me tbh... We
> have
> > too many places users have to look for potential information. The
> website,
> > the JBoss wiki, the GitHub wiki, README.mds, CONTRIBUTING.mds. It's
> hard to
> > keep straight :)
> >
> > Ideally a lot of this would live under hibernate.org website umbrella.
> But
> > to be frank, I find developing content for hibernate.org and
> in.relation.to
> > to be cumbersome. We can get into "why" in a separate subject.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:53 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> But for some reason it directs me back to JIra. Even just clicking that
> >> link in the email does. I wonder if someone set up a bad redirect on
> the
> >> hibernate.org website for that?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:52 AM Steve Ebersole <steve(a)hibernate.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The link target is
> http://www.hibernate.org/issuetracker.html#testcases.
> >>> That's not the "JIRA main page".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:44 AM Gunnar Morling
<gunnar(a)hibernate.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> When creating a new HHH issue, there is a link "...should
generally be
> >>>> accompanied by a test case" but it directs to the JIRA main
page.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we let it point to the test case template repo instead:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://github.com/hibernate/hibernate-test-case-templates
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> --Gunnar
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> hibernate-dev mailing list
> >>>> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev
>
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11:27 a.m.
Hi,
This ties in with an uneasiness that has been growing on me tbh...
We have
too many places users have to look for potential information. The
website, the JBoss wiki, the GitHub wiki, README.mds, CONTRIBUTING.mds.
It's hard to keep straight :)
That has always been my concern.
Ideally a lot of this would live under hibernate.org website
umbrella.
My understanding has always been that this was the plan.
But to be frank, I find developing content for hibernate.org and
in.relation.to
to be cumbersome. We can get into "why" in a separate subject.
Sure.
--Hardy
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