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On 23 March 2016 at 17:18, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > Is ScenicDrive captured? Interesting. You suggest that ScenicDrive is a feature of OGM ? > > On Tue 2016-03-22 11:29, Davide D'Alto wrote: >> Next JIRA will be OGM-1000, any interesting idea we should use for this >> ticket? >> >> Cheers, >> Davide >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev

On 23 March 2016 at 18:37, Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > Hi, > > That's a very good question and we need to decide. > > In the PoC I'm working on, I started from scratch in a separate project for > some reasons: > > * I wanted to have a clean slate, not being influenced by the complexity and > patterns living in existing grid dialects > * Freedom to use Java 8 with Lambdas etc. Funny, was just needing the same and having issues with getting that to work within OGM. I'll send a separate email on that. > * So far, what I need from "backends" is much less than what's provided by > OGM grid dialects, but on the other hand it's more powerful already: I found > (so I hope) a nice way to pass entire aggregate trees (and collections > thereof), which then can e.g. be written in a single op to the store, much > simpler than the current effort we need to do in OGM dialects for e.g. > embedding association info > * I'd like to build a backend for Postgres + JSON without having to > implement a full OGM dialect for this > > That all being said, I'll share what I have with you very soon and we can > discuss it from there. > > --Gunnar > > PS: We seem to switch between "ScenicDrive" and "ScenicView" ;) In my PoC I > went for the latter. One is the engine name, the other the API ;-) Jokes aside, yes I also expected it to be a separate project. I wonder if you're going to have better decision elements after your POC, or if having the POC separate is setting the first irreversible note. Some people suggest that a POC should always be thrown away and rewritten... Sanne > > > > > > 2016-03-23 19:28 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org&gt;: >> >> On 23 March 2016 at 17:18, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; >> wrote: >> > Is ScenicDrive captured? >> >> Interesting. You suggest that ScenicDrive is a feature of OGM ? >> >> > >> > On Tue 2016-03-22 11:29, Davide D'Alto wrote: >> >> Next JIRA will be OGM-1000, any interesting idea we should use for this >> >> ticket? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Davide >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> > _______________________________________________ >> > hibernate-dev mailing list >> > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> hibernate-dev mailing list >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >

I'll wait to see the PoC but the idea of a new project is concerning me. I honestly don't think we have the bandwidth for another code base, release cycle, "marketing cycle" and all that comes with it.

On 23 mars 2016, at 19:37, Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: Hi, That's a very good question and we need to decide. In the PoC I'm working on, I started from scratch in a separate project for some reasons: * I wanted to have a clean slate, not being influenced by the complexity and patterns living in existing grid dialects * Freedom to use Java 8 with Lambdas etc. * So far, what I need from "backends" is much less than what's provided by OGM grid dialects, but on the other hand it's more powerful already: I found (so I hope) a nice way to pass entire aggregate trees (and collections thereof), which then can e.g. be written in a single op to the store, much simpler than the current effort we need to do in OGM dialects for e.g. embedding association info * I'd like to build a backend for Postgres + JSON without having to implement a full OGM dialect for this That all being said, I'll share what I have with you very soon and we can discuss it from there. --Gunnar PS: We seem to switch between "ScenicDrive" and "ScenicView" ;) In my PoC I went for the latter. 2016-03-23 19:28 GMT+01:00 Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org&gt;: > > On 23 March 2016 at 17:18, Emmanuel Bernard <emmanuel(a)hibernate.org&gt; > wrote: > > Is ScenicDrive captured? > > Interesting. You suggest that ScenicDrive is a feature of OGM ? > > > > > On Tue 2016-03-22 11:29, Davide D'Alto wrote: > >> Next JIRA will be OGM-1000, any interesting idea we should use for this > >> ticket? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Davide > >> _______________________________________________ > >> hibernate-dev mailing list > >> hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > > _______________________________________________ > > hibernate-dev mailing list > > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > _______________________________________________ > hibernate-dev mailing list > hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev