Hi, We have some database tables that we can't add version columns to so I would like to instead create a version number by using checksums on the rows. I'm thinking specifically of Oracle here but I assume other platforms may have equivalent features; the sort of query I am looking at using is... select id, name, salary, dbms_crypto.hash(utl_raw.cast_to_raw(id || name || salary), 1) as version from employees In this example, the version column is populated with the MD4 sum of the three properties. I've tried to create a custom EntityPersister but it looks like I'll need to dig deeper. My plan would be to create the checksum code automatically depending on the 'versionability' of the properties. If this sounds useful/sane I am happy to work on a patch. Regards, Tom _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev