I don't see the difference that bundle the CUBRID dialect in hibernate release and
CUBRID JDBC driver wrt the usability for developers.
either way they need get hibernate jar and jdbc jar in classpath. Neither hibernate nor
user (should) care where is the Dialect class located.
to make user easier, i would suggest you open a jira and provide a patch to extend
this resolver will be used if there is no hibernate.dialect property provided.
Strong Liu <stliu(a)hibernate.org>
This whole porting and CUBRID support in Hibernate was initiated with the idea to provide
ease of use and convenience for developers. You know very well how much important is to
have one-shot installer. These years we've been providing the users with a tutorial
how and where to include the Dialect to get Hibernate work with CUBRID. And this is very
inconvenient for developers.
And like I said, CUBRID is a very active project. It's stable and very popular here
in Korea and we are actively building our global community. We really hope that by
committing CUBRIDDialect to Hibernate core would allow HB users to seamlessly benefit from
CUBRID's performance and HA.
I will maintain CUBRIDDialect, so it will not be an issue.
From: "Strong Liu"<stliu(a)hibernate.org>
To: "에센 사그노브"<esen.sagynov(a)nhn.com>
Cc: "Hibernate Dev"<hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>; "Catalin
Sent: 11-08-08(월) 09:14:46
Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] CUBRID Database Dialect for Hibernate
why ship the dialect with your jdbc driver is not a better option?
Strong Liu <stliu(a)hibernate.org>
On Aug 5, 2011, at 10:30 AM, 에센 사그노브 wrote:
> Hello Liu,
> Thank you very much for your attention to this issue. We have reviewed all the thread
you mentioned and some additional mentioned within those threads.
> As a result we have performed unit tests for Hibernate + CUBRID DB. There were 64
tests, 16 of which were related to data types. All 64 tests were successfully passes.
> Regarding the way to add CUBRID support to Hibernate, we have decided to go with the
3rd option, i.e. integrate CUBRIDDialect directly into Hibernate source code. As a CUBRID
Project Manager I am taking the responsibility to ensure the stability/compatibility of
the code and to maintain it as both Hibernate and CUBRID Database evolve. In fact, I am
the lead of CUBRID packages for PHP at PECL, Ruby at RubyGems, Python at PYPI, JDBC at
Clojars, too. With this I would like to ensure you that the CUBRIDDialect will be
maintained continuously. It's not going to be a one-time commit. Like I said in my
previous mail, our company uses Hibernate extensively at 100+ web services together with
CUBRID. More than that there is a huge user base of Hibernate in Korea where CUBRID is a
popular relational database.
> If there is anything else we should look at before creating JIRA issue, please let me
know. We will address all the issues. We are ready to proceed with creating a JIRA issue
and committing the code.
> Esen Sagynov.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Strong Liu"<stliu(a)hibernate.org>
> To: "에센 사그노브"<esen.sagynov(a)nhn.com>
> Cc: hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> Sent: 11-07-15(금) 01:20:25
> Subject: Re: [hibernate-dev] CUBRID Database Dialect for Hibernate
> here are some related topics:
> we (hibernate team) would suggest DB vendors maintain the hibernate dialect
themselves, like delivery the dialect class within jdbc driver.
> there are some reasons that we recommended this way:
> 1. resources, we have limited developer resources and testing environment resource,
for example, i don't think we have qa resources to maintain a CURBID instance for
> 2. since Dialect is the main contract between hibernate and DB, so, if DB has any new
release, it can update the dialect as well, and no need to wait for hibernate release.
> meanwhile, we would like to help db vendors to set up a hibernate ci environment to
make sure the dialect/hibernate works well on the DB.
> and thanks for working on this dialect :D
> Strong Liu <stliu(a)hibernate.org>
> On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:12 PM, 에센 사그노브 wrote:
>> I am the CUBRID open source RDBMS Project Manager. Our parent company NHN has
extensively been using Hibernate in its services together with CUBRID Database Server.
>> Here I would like to attach the CUBRIDDialect.java class file which supports
CUBRID version 8.3.0 and higher (8.3.0, 8.3.1, and current stable 8.4.0) that we want to
submit to Hibernate project.
>> If I should create an issue in JIRA, please let me know which project is the most
>> Esen Sagynov.
>> CUBRID Project Manager.
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