Hello, I investigated HHH-11147 (Allow enhanced entities to be returned in a completely uninitialized state) and have a very small fix for that issue. I want your feedback if I am going the correct route here. Seems too easy and lazy loading is a pretty important piece of hibernate. To spare everyone opening the issue just to get an overview here is a short summary: The use case is an entity with a simple relation: @Entity @Proxy(lazy=true) class MyEntity { @ManyToOne(fetch=FetchType.LAZY) OtherEntity other; } Both entities are bytecode enhanced at compiletime with enableLazyInitialization=true. The problem is that the "other" entity is fetched despite being annotated as lazy. My quick fix is actually only two changed lines. A proper diff (HHH-11147-quick-and-dirty.diff) is attached to the issue. I did specifically not make a PR just for this discussion but if requested I can of course make one. A pseudo-diff can be found below. I did test this fix on our main application and it seems to work. There are two main questions: 1) could there be cases where we create a proxyFactory without need? 2) am I killing the benefits of the bytecode enhancement by using a proxy or do I still get things like association handling? Sorry for the wall of text but I thought this discussion does not belong in the issue itself. Correct me if I am wrong. Greetings, Thomas Pseudo-diff: org.hibernate.event.internal.DefaultLoadEventListener proxyOrLoad(LoadEvent, EntityPersister, EntityKey, LoadType) { ... // this class has no proxies (so do a shortcut) - if ( !persister.hasProxy() ) { + if ( !persister.getEntityMetamodel().isLazy() ) { return load( event, persister, keyToLoad, options ); ... } org.hibernate.tuple.entity.AbstractEntityTuplizer public AbstractEntityTuplizer(...) { ... instantiator = buildInstantiator( entityMetamodel, mappingInfo ); - if ( entityMetamodel.isLazy() && - !entityMetamodel.getBytecodeEnhancementMetadata() - .isEnhancedForLazyLoading() ) { + if ( entityMetamodel.isLazy() ) { proxyFactory = buildProxyFactory( ... ); ... } _______________________________________________ hibernate-dev mailing list hibernate-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev