[JBoss jBPM] - Re: serialization or parallel in a tasknode
by aspider
anonymous wrote :
| No, I disagree. 'Co-signing' for for me is having a set of people agree on a businessdocument. In real life (if it is a paper document) that can only be done in sequence. Electronically it can be done in parallel. Furthermore the 'co-signing PROCESS can be complicated. Maybe a manager has to sign to if e.g. just 2 out of 4 that have to sign agree and there is a stand-off. He also 'just signs' but it is part of a flow.
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| Can you explain to me why you need identical tasks in sequence? What is the relation between them? I get the feeling you need to start thinking out of the box and also take into account that current real-life processes *should not* be modelled as-is electronically. Always take business process redesign into account
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in my understanding, co-signing maybe is that, in a tasknode, several same tasks are delivered paralel automatically to several person, tasknode will finish if all/one of/majority of person(s) agree/disagree.
why i need serialization or parallel same tasks is because in our system, one step of process will be approved by several person with sequence, but what they do are almost same. so i want to do it in one task-node, as co-signing does. If difficult to implement, i will change it to one person one task-node. Is it the correct way?
Thanks for your 2 link, i will read it and hopefully get useful information.
anonymous wrote :
| anonymous wrote : I read ForEachForkAH example from Wiki, i am a little confused about that. It seems to create several node in parallel, not tasknode, so is different to co-sign. right?
| Learn jBPM a little more in the basics... you can put anything in there, tasknodes, subprocesses.... you name it...
I read JBPM doc, but i cant get any useful stuff in such situation.
Could you tell me more?
Thanks a lot!
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[JBoss jBPM] - Re: serialization or parallel in a tasknode
by kukeltje
anonymous wrote : As you said, in this scenario, this tasks should only be regarded as serveral tasknode instead of one tasknode, which is diffrent from co-sign.
No, I disagree. 'Co-signing' for for me is having a set of people agree on a businessdocument. In real life (if it is a paper document) that can only be done in sequence. Electronically it can be done in parallel. Furthermore the 'co-signing PROCESS can be complicated. Maybe a manager has to sign to if e.g. just 2 out of 4 that have to sign agree and there is a stand-off. He also 'just signs' but it is part of a flow.
Can you explain to me why you need identical tasks in sequence? What is the relation between them? I get the feeling you need to start thinking out of the box and also take into account that current real-life processes *should not* be modelled as-is electronically. Always take business process redesign into account
anonymous wrote : I read ForEachForkAH example from Wiki, i am a little confused about that. It seems to create several node in parallel, not tasknode, so is different to co-sign. right?
Learn jBPM a little more in the basics... you can put anything in there, tasknodes, subprocesses.... you name it...
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[JBoss jBPM] - Re: serialization or parallel in a tasknode
by aspider
Thanks for you reply.
anonymous wrote :
| anonymous wrote :
| | co-signing is creating serverl tasks in one tasknode, but runing order of them are specific.
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| Again... you can't.... Tasks carried out one after another (if that is important) are not, never the same.. The content of the task might be, but since the order is important, it is flow...
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As you said, in this scenario, this tasks should only be regarded as serveral tasknode instead of one tasknode, which is diffrent from co-sign.
anonymous wrote :
| anonymous wrote :
| | what i need is like it, except that the order can be specified.
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| You can do two things...
| - Wait for jBPM 4 and *hope* it will be so much more flexible that you can configure this
| - Create the tasks with and give then e.g. a specific name or set a task-local variable and create your own tasklist manager that filters all tasks out that should not be visible yet....
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I dont know its possible to sort out several tasks in a process instance and make it runs as sub-process.
anonymous wrote :
| anonymous wrote : Could you give the example link to me, i could not find it, sorry.
| | No, since there is none....
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I read ForEachForkAH example from Wiki, i am a little confused about that. It seems to create several node in parallel, not tasknode, so is different to co-sign. right?
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[JBoss jBPM] - Re: serialization or parallel in a tasknode
by kukeltje
anonymous wrote : co-signing is creating serverl tasks in one tasknode, but runing order of them are specific.
You can't as mentioned earlier
anonymous wrote : what i need is like it, except that the order can be specified.
Again... you can't.... Tasks carried out one after another (if that is important) are not, never the same.. The content of the task might be, but since the order is important, it is flow...
You can do two things...
- Wait for jBPM 4 and *hope* it will be so much more flexible that you can configure this
- Create the tasks with and give then e.g. a specific name or set a task-local variable and create your own tasklist manager that filters all tasks out that should not be visible yet....
anonymous wrote : Could you give the example link to me, i could not find it, sorry.
No, since there is none....
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