[rules-users] Coarse Grained Moves

Hello there, I'm pretty new to OptaPlanner, and I must say I'm really impressed with the maturity of it all. Great software with a great documentation ! I've been working on a variation of the Cloud Balancing example, with a few differences, which make it look like the Machine Reassignment problem as well : - Some processes are already placed and are immovable (using a Selection Filter checking a boolean property of the planning entity) - The Computer (the planning variable) is nullable (basically this is Multiple Muti-Dimensional Knapsack problem) which means I added a soft constraint penalty for processes with a null host. - Processes can only be of a few classes (which I called services, a Problem Fact). Processes of a given service type have a certain amount of required cpu and ram. Taking these elements into account, I do get very good results with OptaPlanner. However, the following constraints always put me into a score trap : - For some services, processes work in groups. For instance, if groups are of size 3, having 7 processes is not any better than having 6 processes. If there were already 2 processes (immovable and placed), I should only add 4 processes and not 5, even if there are enough resources. For this constraint, I have tried using a rule (medium constraint) accumulating processes of that service and using the modulo operator with the group size. - Some services are dependant on one another. For instance, I know that if I have n1 groups of processes of the service 1, I require Math.ceil(2.5*n1) groups of processes of the service 2. I have implemented this similarly with a medium constraint... With any (or both) of these constraints, little to no processes of the concerned services are added and I fail to reach a good solution. I have tried benchmarking with several local search methods and various parameters, but all give the same results... I feel like the next logical step would be to used the often mentioned in the documentation "Coarse Grained Moves" but I fail to locate any simple example. The Nurse Rostering example seems to use that technique to some extent but it seems like an overly complicated example, is it not. Thank you very much for reading this far, if you have any question, guideline, or just a trick, I'd be absolutely delighted to hear from you ! Cheers, Woody