Agreed - Dan and I were both very upset when we found out about this
restriction. Then we spent a little while establishing these guidelines -
We're open to other options, but assuming we had to deal with what we have
today, that's what we came up with. I think it's a decent approach until we
can get some automatic registration support.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Shane Bryzak <sbryzak(a)redhat.com> wrote:
That seems like an appropriate interim solution to me. We really
need to
be on our toes when it comes to "complexity creep", and having
auto-registered interceptors should be a given seeing as our long-time modus
operandi has always been about providing sensible defaults.
On 26/03/10 10:31, Stuart Douglas wrote:
> We could possibly add a non-portable way of doing this automatically for
> weld, document that if you are using a different CDI provider you need to do
> this manually and push to get it included in a later revision of the spec?
>
> Stuart
>
>
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> On Behalf Of Shane Bryzak [sbryzak(a)redhat.com]
> Sent: Friday, 26 March 2010 11:27 AM
> To: Lincoln Baxter, III
> Cc: Seam Dev List
> Subject: Re: [seam-dev] Interceptor packaging convention
>
> This will be a major inconvenience for our users if we expect them to
> manually add all the interceptors they need for conversations, security,
> transactions, and who knows what else. Is there absolutely no other way
> that we can automatically register these in the extension? Also I'm not a
> big fan of having to use the org.jboss.seam.intercept namespace, I don't
> want to have to include a lone class in this package if all my other classes
> are in (for example the security module) org.jboss.seam.security.
>
> On 26/03/10 10:14, Lincoln Baxter, III wrote:
> Seam Devs,
>
> Dan and I have been working on the @Begin and @End conversation support
> for Seam Faces, and we've discovered that there is a new fact of life for
> consumers of portable CDI extensions. Due to the fact that @Interceptors
> cannot be enabled in the extensions themselves (due to restrictions on
> beans.xml for purposes of absolute ordering in the application. See:
>
http://seamframework.org/Community/EnablingAnInterceptorInALibrary )
>
> This presents an interesting issue; we want to be providing a good
> out-of-box experience, but interceptors must be registered manually.
>
> This means that @Interceptor classes must be:
>
> * Exposed to the developer
> * Registered manually by the developer in beans.xml
> -<interceptors>...</interceptors>
> * Consistently named and packaged to prevent refactoring / backwards
> compatibility issues
> * Checked at startup in order to warn devs that they are using
> annotations with no enabled @Interceptor
>
> We would like to propose the following conventions in order to address the
> above concerns:
>
> All @Interceptor classes must:
>
> 1. Adhere to the following package and naming scheme:
> org.jboss.seam.intercept.*Interceptor
> 2. Warn users (or Error out when appropriate) if they are using
> interceptable @Annotations when the @Inteceptor itself is not registered:
> (@Interceptor registration can be checked in the Extension class
> AfterBeanDiscovery via BeanManager.resolveInterceptors(type,
> interceptorBindings)
>
> This presents users with:
>
> 1. A consistent naming scheme to help prevent typos.
> 2. A safety net to catch them when they fall down (because we forgot to
> tie the ladder.)
> 3. A protected namespace so that when we refactor, we don't break their
> world. (Even though #2 would catch it.)
>
> I've updated the Seam 3 Development Guidelines<
>
http://seamframework.org/Seam3/DevelopmentGuidelines> to reflect these
> conventions - they can be changed as needed pending the outcome of this
> discussion :)
>
> --
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