On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: "@AeroGears" can cause confusion about what the project name really is. All the JUGs I presented at, and some conferences call the project already "AeroGears", due to the tiwtter handle :-) Options to fix: - Ask the owner of @AeroGear if he or she want to give up the handle are we also offering 50k ? :) - Change the handle to "@AeroGearTeam" or "@AeroGearProject", or something else I think the 'concern' was that the name is too long, but on the other hand, there is some sort of confusion w/ our actual name :-0 If I had to pick one out of those that you suggested it would be 'AeroGearTeam', that's exactly just three chars longer than the current :) -M Thoughts? Hylke _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: You are right that it may be a bit long for replies. "@AGTeam" or "@AGProject" could work too (if they weren't already taken but something amongst those line :). not sure if AGTeam/Project is really 'cool'

Hylke On 30/01/2014 11:29, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > "@AeroGears" can cause confusion about what the project name really is. > > All the JUGs I presented at, and some conferences call the project already "AeroGears", due to the tiwtter handle :-) > > > Options to fix: > - Ask the owner of @AeroGear if he or she want to give up the handle > > are we also offering 50k ? :) > > - Change the handle to "@AeroGearTeam" or "@AeroGearProject", or > something else > > I think the 'concern' was that the name is too long, but on the other hand, there is some sort of confusion w/ our actual name :-0 > > If I had to pick one out of those that you suggested it would be 'AeroGearTeam', that's exactly just three chars longer than the current :) > > -M > > > > > > Thoughts? > > Hylke > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

On 30/01/2014 13:37, Lucas Holmquist wrote: > > On Jan 30, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >> You are right that it may be a bit long for replies. >> "@AGTeam" or "@AGProject" could work too (if they weren't already taken but something amongst those line :). >> >> not sure if AGTeam/Project is really 'cool' > > yea, if i was just a random person on twitter and saw "AGTeam", i'd be like WhoTF is that > Well, it's just a handle. Real names are shown in tweets too nowadays. It's better to have something that's a bit less related than something that is confusing. *team, *project and *tweets are pretty much convention too and people will figure out the name. Hylke >> >> >> Hylke >> >> >> On 30/01/2014 11:29, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >>> "@AeroGears" can cause confusion about what the project name really is. >>> >>> All the JUGs I presented at, and some conferences call the project already "AeroGears", due to the tiwtter handle :-) >>> >>> >>> Options to fix: >>> - Ask the owner of @AeroGear if he or she want to give up the handle >>> >>> are we also offering 50k ? :) >>> >>> - Change the handle to "@AeroGearTeam" or "@AeroGearProject", or >>> something else >>> >>> I think the 'concern' was that the name is too long, but on the other hand, there is some sort of confusion w/ our actual name :-0 >>> >>> If I had to pick one out of those that you suggested it would be 'AeroGearTeam', that's exactly just three chars longer than the current :) >>> >>> -M >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> Hylke >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Matthias Wessendorf >>> >>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: You are right that it may be a bit long for replies. "@AGTeam" or "@AGProject" could work too (if they weren't already taken but something amongst those line :). not sure if AGTeam/Project is really 'cool' Hylke On 30/01/2014 11:29, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com > <mailto:hbons@redhat.com>> wrote: > > "@AeroGears" can cause confusion about what the project name > really is. > > > All the JUGs I presented at, and some conferences call the > project already "AeroGears", due to the tiwtter handle :-) > > > Options to fix: > - Ask the owner of @AeroGear if he or she want to give up the > handle > > > are we also offering 50k ? :) > > - Change the handle to "@AeroGearTeam" or "@AeroGearProject", or > something else > > > I think the 'concern' was that the name is too long, but on the > other hand, there is some sort of confusion w/ our actual name :-0 > > If I had to pick one out of those that you suggested it would be > 'AeroGearTeam', that's exactly just three chars longer than the > current :) > > -M > > > > > Thoughts? > > Hylke > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

On Feb 3, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: I've compiled a list of handles that are less problematic and available. Seriously though, is this really problematic?

From short to long: @_AeroGear_ @AeroGearOrg @AeroGearTeam @AeroGearNews @JBossAeroGear @AeroGearMobile @AeroGearTweets Hylke On 30/01/2014 12:33, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > You are right that it may be a bit long for replies. > "@AGTeam" or "@AGProject" could work too (if they weren't already taken > but something amongst those line :). > not sure if AGTeam/Project is really 'cool' > > > Hylke > > > On 30/01/2014 11:29, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: > >> "@AeroGears" can cause confusion about what the project name really is. >> > > All the JUGs I presented at, and some conferences call the project > already "AeroGears", due to the tiwtter handle :-) > > >> >> Options to fix: >> - Ask the owner of @AeroGear if he or she want to give up the handle >> > > are we also offering 50k ? :) > > >> - Change the handle to "@AeroGearTeam" or "@AeroGearProject", or >> something else >> > > I think the 'concern' was that the name is too long, but on the other > hand, there is some sort of confusion w/ our actual name :-0 > > If I had to pick one out of those that you suggested it would be > 'AeroGearTeam', that's exactly just three chars longer than the current :) > > -M > > > > > >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Hylke >> _______________________________________________ >> aerogear-dev mailing list >> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing listaerogear-dev@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing listaerogear-dev@lists.jboss.orghttps://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

@__aerogear or @_aerogear ? On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Douglas Campos <qmx(a)qmx.me&gt; wrote: > **If** we're really forced to change, I'd go with @aerogear_project > > -- > qmx > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf

I still can't see what the real value added on it. Everyone knows that there's a team behind it, so I can't see why "_team", also do we plan to create handles for "AeroGearPush", "AeroGearSecurity"...if yes,

that makes sense. And "_project", well we know,

it's a project, the "s" on @aerogears always gave to me the sense of a bunch of people behind this to make it happen.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt;wrote: > Actually, @aerogear_project makes sense (see @netty_project) > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt;wrote: > >> @__aerogear or @_aerogear ? >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Douglas Campos <qmx(a)qmx.me&gt; wrote: >> >>> **If** we're really forced to change, I'd go with @aerogear_project >>> >>> -- >>> qmx >>> _______________________________________________ >>> aerogear-dev mailing list >>> aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf >> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >> > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > -- -- "The measure of a man is what he does with power" - Plato - @abstractj - Volenti Nihil Difficile _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

On Feb 21, 2014, at 12:59 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Bruno Oliveira <bruno(a)abstractj.org&gt; wrote: > I still can't see what the real value added on it. Everyone knows that there's a team behind it, so I can't see why "_team", also do we plan to create handles for "AeroGearPush", "AeroGearSecurity"...if yes, > > not sure on all these twitter handles. I'd vote -1 on all these accounts +1 on the -1 for additional handles. > > > that makes sense. And "_project", well we know, > > _project or _team - I think both is fine. I never really thought too much about it (team vs. project). I would go with _team as it is shorter, although #aerogear_org I also like and is 1 character less than team. We'll need to take a vote here, or come to some conclusion - I think it can be debated forever ;-) > > > it's a project, the "s" on @aerogears always gave to me the sense of a bunch of people behind this to make it happen. > > I think the "real problem" is folks think "AeroGears" is the name of the project > > Wednesday I gave an AeroGear presentation. Due to the twitter handle of @AeroGears, two of those that asked questions, actually called the project AeroGears :)))) > And that's what I have noticed before, which is, I think, the reason why Hylke brought it up. > > Unfortunately @AeroGear is taken, but I do think that @AeroGears is misleading - in terms of the name. > > However, your "@aerogears always gave to me the sense of a bunch of people behind this to make it happen." is a good thought! Which is believe leads towards _team, right? > > Again I never really interpreted too much into the meaning of the twitter handle, besides the fact that folks do not really get our name. > > > Greetings, > Matthias > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > Actually, @aerogear_project makes sense (see @netty_project) > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org&gt; wrote: > @__aerogear or @_aerogear ? > > > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Douglas Campos <qmx(a)qmx.me&gt; wrote: > **If** we're really forced to change, I'd go with @aerogear_project > > -- > qmx > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > -- > > -- > "The measure of a man is what he does with power" - Plato > - > @abstractj > - > Volenti Nihil Difficile > > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf > _______________________________________________ > aerogear-dev mailing list > aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

it's a project, the "s" on @aerogears always gave to me the sense of a bunch of people behind this to make it happen.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> wrote: Actually, @aerogear_project makes sense (see @netty_project) On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew(a)apache.org <mailto:matzew@apache.org>> wrote: @__aerogear or @_aerogear ? On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Douglas Campos <qmx(a)qmx.me <mailto:qmx@qmx.me>> wrote: **If** we're really forced to change, I'd go with @aerogear_project -- qmx _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev -- -- "The measure of a man is what he does with power" - Plato - @abstractj - Volenti Nihil Difficile _______________________________________________ aerogear-dev mailing list aerogear-dev(a)lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev

> In that case "@AeroGearers" might have the same effect whilst clashing with the project name? :) Hylke