3:37 p.m.
I vote to keep the SVN repository. SVN is the standard and most everyone is familiar with
it. The Eclipse SVN plugin is mature and generally works very well (though it would be
nice to be able to have a hierarchical root project). And, per Randall, Git has a nice way
of dealing with SVN for those who want to use Git with an SVN repository.
I personally avoid the command-line as much as possible. I much rather look at an Eclipse
View than a terminal window when trying to figure out things. I like an IDE to be an IDE
and Eclipse does a pretty good job.
I've gotten by without using local branches so far and don't think I will all of
sudden start using them just because we are made to use Git. So if that is the main reason
to switch I'm not buying it.
There is no need to rush the adoption of Git. As Randall says this can be done later if
the need becomes more justified. Let the Git tooling mature. Let other projects take the
credit for moving to Git first.
To be fair I don't know enough about the Git Eclipse plugin. Is it stable? Can it be
used just like the SVN plugin (i.e., check-in, check-out, diffs, create/delete projects,
etc)? If the answer is yes, I might be more open to it.
I don't see the compelling need to force everyone off the standard way (which is
pretty darn good).
My vote is keep SVN.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall Hauch" <rhauch(a)redhat.com>
To: "JBoss DNA" <dna-dev(a)lists.jboss.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2009 1:46:35 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [dna-dev] Version control poll
As part of the rebranding that we'll be doing soon, we're going to switch version
control repositories from our current SVN location () to another repository. We can very
easily stay on the same SVN instance, or we can take the opportunity to switch to Git. Of
course, it isn't "now or never". Even though the rebranding point would be
an excellent time to switch (since we have to move repositories anyway), it isn't the
only time we could switch to Git. So if it's not now, I suspect we'll make the
switch within six months (or so).
I'd like to hear what people have to say on the matter.
Personally, I've been using Git locally for many months, and couldn't imagine
going back. I simply love the ability to have local branches (that are almost always
named for the JIRA issue) and to switch between them very easily. And I'm not even
benefiting from the ability to push these branches out anywhere else. The Git Eclipse
plugin works very well for me, but I'm very used to the command-line and don't
expect much from my Eclipse Team UI functionality anymore. (I really just want Eclipse to
tell me which files are changed locally, which the plugin does very well - everything else
I use the command line for because its far easier IMO.)
However, I do have several concerns. One of them is whether this raises or lowers the bar
for people downloading the source, submitting patches, or for becoming new committers.
For people that only have SVN experience, I think this will dramatically raise the bar
because Git will be a big unknown for them. On the other hand, Git is becoming extremely
popular and used on a lot of projects, so while this might be the norm now, I don't
expect it will be in a year. For people that do know Git, our using Git would actually
_lower_ the bar for their submitting patches, because they can create a patch on their own
Git repository (or if that's not accessible then on a site like GitHub) and give us a
URL, where we can pull it in to review and possibly commit.
Another concern is what the Git experience is on Windows, which I can't evaluate. The
Git experience is pretty much the same on OS X, Unix, and Linux mostly because
command-line support is so similar. But while Windows has very different command-line
support, it does seem that msysgit (http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/) gets around that
issue pretty well. I'd love to hear about your experience with Git on Windows,
though.
One concern I have had in the past was whether our Hudson continuous integration system
will support Git. I happy to say that a Git plugin for Hudson has been available for some
time, that our Hudson team have a test environment where they've install it, and I
will be creating some test jobs for them. So while this still is an issue, it
shouldn't be within a few weeks of the New Year (or sooner if I can find the time).
Please stand up and be heard.
Best regards,
Randall
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