Right, ultimately we won't have a choice.. they will simply be moving all HipChat cloud instances to Stride Cloud. I signed up for the EAP so that we can get involved in providing any feedback we deem important prior to that launch. After we are moved off waitlist ofc. On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:23 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote:

The wait list here specifically is for access to an EAP instance that is essentially a sandbox. It will not import our existing messages, etc. It will be an empty instance we can play with. I am not sure how teams work there, but the email I got implies that we ought to be able to somehow replicate the team there. But again, nothing here is permanent. This is in contrast to the "wait list" we are all on where Atlassian will begin migrating HipChat Cloud teams over to Stride. That *will* migrate our history, teams, etc. The email said that will happen within the next 6 months. HTH On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 8:56 AM Sanne Grinovero <sanne(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote:

On 26 October 2017 at 15:52, Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: Their FAQ states they will stransfer everything, so I'm crossing fingers..

On 10/26/2017 09:22 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: Just out of curiosity from someone that has just 2 weeks subscribed to this mailing list. Why not try Riot/Matrix http://riot.im/ ?

On 10/26/2017 12:03 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: As someone that jumps from forums to forums when need to discuss bugs outside bug reports systems, the lack of anonymous access to HipChat discouraged me multiple times to join. Not because anonymity was important, just tired of creating accounts for a few days usage in another service. Just my 2 cents. There are other advantages but are more "political" than practical (OSS, federated, etc).

On 10/26/2017 03:40 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: I don't see any options for anonymous logins there. It redirect to a login page with no options for a creating a new account either. If I post an email address in order to check if it later allows to login anonymously or if it ask to create an account. It says: "We don't recognize that email address"

Yes I tested too an it works. The problem is that hibernate.org has the wrong url On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 8:57 AM Yoann Rodiere <yoann(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote:

the room link you provided? Steve already did. Yoann Rodière Hibernate NoORM Team yoann(a)hibernate.org On 27 October 2017 at 16:14, Gunnar Morling <gunnar(a)hibernate.org&gt; wrote: > Poor guest accessibility is the biggest issue I see about HipChat. I hope > that's a thing improved in Stride. > > the room link you provided? > > 2017-10-27 15:41 GMT+02:00 Yoann Rodiere <yoann(a)hibernate.org&gt;: > >> Steve, Robert, >> >> The link to the room is different for guests: https://www.hipchat. >> com/gRRHYZZvB >> I just tested it, it works. >> >> It also tends to be re-generated each time there's a security breach at >> Atlassian, but that's another story... :) >> >> >> Yoann Rodière >> Hibernate NoORM Team >> yoann(a)hibernate.org >> >> On 27 October 2017 at 15:10, Robert Marcano <robert(a)marcanoonline.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >> > On 10/26/2017 03:40 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: >> > > I can understand that. >> > > >> > > There is a room in our HipChat that we allow anonymous/guest access, >> no >> > > need for an account. The only thing you lose is the ability to see >> > > history. But I think that's a reasonable expectation. Have you tried >> > > that approach? http://hibernate.hipchat.com/chat/room/3369275 >> > >> > I don't see any options for anonymous logins there. It redirect to a >> > login page with no options for a creating a new account either. >> > >> > If I post an email address in order to check if it later allows to login >> > anonymously or if it ask to create an account. It says: >> > >> > "We don't recognize that email address" >> > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:25 PM Robert Marcano < >> robert(a)marcanoonline.com >> > > <mailto:robert@marcanoonline.com>> wrote: >> > > >> > > On 10/26/2017 12:03 PM, Steve Ebersole wrote: >> > > > Why would we? What's the benefit over what we have? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > As someone that jumps from forums to forums when need to discuss >> bugs >> > > outside bug reports systems, the lack of anonymous access to >> HipChat >> > > discouraged me multiple times to join. Not because anonymity was >> > > important, just tired of creating accounts for a few days usage in >> > > another service. Just my 2 cents. >> > > >> > > There are other advantages but are more "political" than practical >> > (OSS, >> > > federated, etc). >> > > >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 10:52 AM Robert Marcano >> > > > <robert(a)marcanoonline.com <mailto:robert@marcanoonline.com> >> > > <mailto:robert@marcanoonline.com <mailto:robert@marcanoonline.com >> >>> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > On 10/26/2017 09:22 AM, Sanne Grinovero wrote: >> > > > > Thanks, I had the same on my TODO list. Are you going to >> > > convert the >> > > > > HipChat team? >> > > > >> > > > Just out of curiosity from someone that has just 2 weeks >> > > subscribed to >> > > > this mailing list. 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