10:12 a.m.
Folks,
when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the patch is working so
that the issue can be closed?
cheers
--thomas
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10:20 a.m.
Thomas - to get it into EAP it must have also had a BZ which means it
would be verified by QE.
Regards,
Darran Lofthouse.
On 17/04/13 09:12, Thomas Diesler wrote:
Folks,
when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the patch is working so
that the issue can be closed?
cheers
--thomas
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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12:16 p.m.
Hi Darran,
this does not work. There is no living soul in QA that could verify my patch and guarantee
that it works for the reporter. For good reason, we distinguish between Resolved/Closed -
only the reporter of an issue can make the transition from Resolved to Closed.
I'd say this process is broken.
I suggest we do all work in jboss-as until an issue is not only Resolved but also Closed.
Closed issues can be picked up by QA and the associated commits cherry-picked and whatever
other voodoo they do in their non-public systems.
As it stands now the reporter has to wait until the next EAP release before he can know
whether his issue is truly fixed. That is obviously broken, isn't it?
cheers
--thomas
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
Thomas - to get it into EAP it must have also had a BZ which means it
would be verified by QE.
Regards,
Darran Lofthouse.
On 17/04/13 09:12, Thomas Diesler wrote:
> Folks,
>
> when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the patch is working
so that the issue can be closed?
>
> cheers
> --thomas
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thomas Diesler
> JBoss OSGi Lead
> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
>
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12:47 p.m.
All issues should be going upstream first anyway into what is currently
marked as AS8 if that is what you mean?
On 17/04/13 11:16, Thomas Diesler wrote:
Hi Darran,
this does not work. There is no living soul in QA that could verify my patch and
guarantee that it works for the reporter. For good reason, we distinguish between
Resolved/Closed - only the reporter of an issue can make the transition from Resolved to
Closed.
I'd say this process is broken.
I suggest we do all work in jboss-as until an issue is not only Resolved but also Closed.
Closed issues can be picked up by QA and the associated commits cherry-picked and whatever
other voodoo they do in their non-public systems.
As it stands now the reporter has to wait until the next EAP release before he can know
whether his issue is truly fixed. That is obviously broken, isn't it?
cheers
--thomas
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
> Thomas - to get it into EAP it must have also had a BZ which means it
> would be verified by QE.
>
> Regards,
> Darran Lofthouse.
>
>
> On 17/04/13 09:12, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the patch is
working so that the issue can be closed?
>>
>> cheers
>> --thomas
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Thomas Diesler
>> JBoss OSGi Lead
>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
>>
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12:55 p.m.
The upstream process is fine.
This thread is about bugs reported against EAP 6.1.0.Alpha1
On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
All issues should be going upstream first anyway into what is
currently marked as AS8 if that is what you mean?
On 17/04/13 11:16, Thomas Diesler wrote:
> Hi Darran,
>
> this does not work. There is no living soul in QA that could verify my patch and
guarantee that it works for the reporter. For good reason, we distinguish between
Resolved/Closed - only the reporter of an issue can make the transition from Resolved to
Closed.
>
> I'd say this process is broken.
>
> I suggest we do all work in jboss-as until an issue is not only Resolved but also
Closed. Closed issues can be picked up by QA and the associated commits cherry-picked and
whatever other voodoo they do in their non-public systems.
>
> As it stands now the reporter has to wait until the next EAP release before he can
know whether his issue is truly fixed. That is obviously broken, isn't it?
>
> cheers
> --thomas
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com>
wrote:
>
>> Thomas - to get it into EAP it must have also had a BZ which means it
>> would be verified by QE.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Darran Lofthouse.
>>
>>
>> On 17/04/13 09:12, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the patch is
working so that the issue can be closed?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> --thomas
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Thomas Diesler
>>> JBoss OSGi Lead
>>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list
>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list
>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thomas Diesler
> JBoss OSGi Lead
> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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12:57 p.m.
I think what Darran is trying to say, is that any EAP issue needs to have an upstream
issue first anyway.
That mean you can verify it against the community builds.
On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com> wrote:
The upstream process is fine.
This thread is about bugs reported against EAP 6.1.0.Alpha1
On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
> All issues should be going upstream first anyway into what is currently marked as AS8
if that is what you mean?
>
>
> On 17/04/13 11:16, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>> Hi Darran,
>>
>> this does not work. There is no living soul in QA that could verify my patch and
guarantee that it works for the reporter. For good reason, we distinguish between
Resolved/Closed - only the reporter of an issue can make the transition from Resolved to
Closed.
>>
>> I'd say this process is broken.
>>
>> I suggest we do all work in jboss-as until an issue is not only Resolved but also
Closed. Closed issues can be picked up by QA and the associated commits cherry-picked and
whatever other voodoo they do in their non-public systems.
>>
>> As it stands now the reporter has to wait until the next EAP release before he
can know whether his issue is truly fixed. That is obviously broken, isn't it?
>>
>> cheers
>> --thomas
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> Thomas - to get it into EAP it must have also had a BZ which means it
>>> would be verified by QE.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Darran Lofthouse.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/04/13 09:12, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the patch
is working so that the issue can be closed?
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> --thomas
>>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Thomas Diesler
>>>> JBoss OSGi Lead
>>>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
>>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list
>>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list
>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
>>
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Thomas Diesler
>> JBoss OSGi Lead
>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
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1:02 p.m.
AFAIU, the source tree is jboss-eap, which is not accessible for the reporter.
So the reporter cannot make the transition from Resolved to Closed.
All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes in the next EAP
release, can he?
On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:57 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com> wrote:
I think what Darran is trying to say, is that any EAP issue needs to
have an upstream issue first anyway.
That mean you can verify it against the community builds.
On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com> wrote:
> The upstream process is fine.
>
> This thread is about bugs reported against EAP 6.1.0.Alpha1
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com>
wrote:
>
>> All issues should be going upstream first anyway into what is currently marked as
AS8 if that is what you mean?
>>
>>
>> On 17/04/13 11:16, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>>> Hi Darran,
>>>
>>> this does not work. There is no living soul in QA that could verify my patch
and guarantee that it works for the reporter. For good reason, we distinguish between
Resolved/Closed - only the reporter of an issue can make the transition from Resolved to
Closed.
>>>
>>> I'd say this process is broken.
>>>
>>> I suggest we do all work in jboss-as until an issue is not only Resolved but
also Closed. Closed issues can be picked up by QA and the associated commits cherry-picked
and whatever other voodoo they do in their non-public systems.
>>>
>>> As it stands now the reporter has to wait until the next EAP release before
he can know whether his issue is truly fixed. That is obviously broken, isn't it?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> --thomas
>>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Darran Lofthouse
<darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thomas - to get it into EAP it must have also had a BZ which means it
>>>> would be verified by QE.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Darran Lofthouse.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17/04/13 09:12, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the
patch is working so that the issue can be closed?
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> --thomas
>>>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Thomas Diesler
>>>>> JBoss OSGi Lead
>>>>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
>>>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> jboss-as7-dev mailing list
>>>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
>>>
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Thomas Diesler
>>> JBoss OSGi Lead
>>> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
>>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thomas Diesler
> JBoss OSGi Lead
> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
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1:09 p.m.
… and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
I think it is jboss-eap/6.x, and not jboss-as/7.1
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com> wrote:
If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be used to verified it,
no?
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com> wrote:
> All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes in the next EAP
release, can he?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thomas Diesler
JBoss OSGi Lead
JBoss, a division of Red Hat
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
1:23 p.m.
The overall upstream is the master branch of jboss-as
On 17/04/13 12:09, Thomas Diesler wrote:
… and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
I think it is jboss-eap/6.x <https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-eap>;, and
not jboss-as/7.1 <https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/tree/7.1>
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com
<mailto:hbraun@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>
> If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be
> used to verified it, no?
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com
> <mailto:thomas.diesler@jboss.com>> wrote:
>
>> All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes
>> in the next EAP release, can he?
>
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thomas Diesler
JBoss OSGi Lead
JBoss, a division of Red Hat
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
1:27 p.m.
Yes of course. I'm talking about a patch that applies to the 7.1 code base only.
A commit that cannot be made in jboss-as, but only in jboos-eap.
A fix to the R4V42 OSGi Framework.
In AS8 we have the R5 Framework.
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
The overall upstream is the master branch of jboss-as
On 17/04/13 12:09, Thomas Diesler wrote:
> … and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
>
> I think it is jboss-eap/6.x <https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-eap>;, and
> not jboss-as/7.1 <https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/tree/7.1>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com
> <mailto:hbraun@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be
>> used to verified it, no?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com
>> <mailto:thomas.diesler@jboss.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes
>>> in the next EAP release, can he?
>>
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thomas Diesler
> JBoss OSGi Lead
> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thomas Diesler
JBoss OSGi Lead
JBoss, a division of Red Hat
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3:10 p.m.
Right, jboss-eap/6.x is the AS 7.2.x series that only exists for EAP 6 purposes.
The jboss-as/7.1 died at 7.1.3 by EAP 6.0.1 time, and the jboss-as/master moved to AS8 and
it is already considerably different.
… and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
I think it is jboss-eap/6.x , and not jboss-as/7.1
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun < hbraun(a)redhat.com > wrote:
If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be
used to verified it, no?
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <
thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com > wrote:
All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes
in the next EAP release, can he?
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4:15 p.m.
Thank for confirming this Fernando. Earlier in the thread I said
There is no living soul in QA that could verify my patch and guarantee that it works for
the reporter. For good reason, we distinguish between Resolved/Closed - only the reporter
of an issue can make the transition from Resolved to Closed.
I'd say this process is broken.
I suggest we do all work in jboss-as until an issue is not only Resolved but also Closed.
Closed issues can be picked up by QA and the associated commits cherry-picked and whatever
other voodoo they do in their non-public systems.
As it stands now the reporter has to wait until the next EAP release before he can know
whether his issue is truly fixed. That is obviously broken, isn't it?
What would you say about that?
cheers
--thomas
On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Fernando Nasser <fnasser(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Right, jboss-eap/6.x is the AS 7.2.x series that only exists for
EAP 6 purposes.
The jboss-as/7.1 died at 7.1.3 by EAP 6.0.1 time, and the jboss-as/master moved to AS8
and it is already considerably different.
>
> … and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
>
>
> I think it is jboss-eap/6.x , and not jboss-as/7.1
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun < hbraun(a)redhat.com > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be
> used to verified it, no?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <
> thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com > wrote:
>
>
> All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes
> in the next EAP release, can he?
>
>
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thomas Diesler
> JBoss OSGi Lead
> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> jboss-as7-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/jboss-as7-dev
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4:19 p.m.
Hi there,
The URL https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-eap returns 404. I can find
only as tags and releases, no eap.
So the only way to get sources for EAP is waiting for Red Hat to release
the zip file at
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/jbeap/
And customers wishing to try a patch to confirm an issue is solved have
no way to do that, unless the developer sends them the patch file by
other means (e-mail) and the patch file does not depends on any other
change made to the trunk since the latest release.
Am I right?
[]s, Fernando Lozano
... and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
I think it is jboss-eap/6.x <https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-eap>;,
and not jboss-as/7.1 <https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-as/tree/7.1>
On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com
<mailto:hbraun@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>
> If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be
> used to verified it, no?
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com
> <mailto:thomas.diesler@jboss.com>> wrote:
>
>> All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it
>> goes in the next EAP release, can he?
>
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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JBoss OSGi Lead
JBoss, a division of Red Hat
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4:42 p.m.
On Apr 17, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Fernando Lozano <fernando(a)lozano.eti.br> wrote:
Hi there,
The URL https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-eap returns 404. I can find only as tags and
releases, no eap.
So the only way to get sources for EAP is waiting for Red Hat to release the zip file at
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/jbeap/
And customers wishing to try a patch to confirm an issue is solved have no way to do
that, unless the developer sends them the patch file by other means (e-mail) and the patch
file does not depends on any other change made to the trunk since the latest release.
Am I right?
Yes, thats it. I provide a patch to the best of my knowledge and there is no way to verify
that patch until it is part of a release. The reporter can verify the release and only
then report back that the patch is not valid.
Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer on how to fix this other than "make
jboss-eap public". Then again, I don't really understand why it is so secret what
we do there if we release eap+sources every couple of months anyway.
[]s, Fernando Lozano
> … and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
>
> I think it is jboss-eap/6.x, and not jboss-as/7.1
>
> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be used to
verified it, no?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes in the
next EAP release, can he?
>>
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Thomas Diesler
> JBoss OSGi Lead
> JBoss, a division of Red Hat
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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4:48 p.m.
testcase is fine if there is a convention that a resolved issue can be closed when it
passes a given test case. If I write the testcase I test what I patch, which is not the
same as the reporter verifying the patch and making the transition from resolved to
closed.
On Apr 17, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Jaikiran Pai <jpai(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Wednesday 17 April 2013 08:12 PM, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>
>
> Yes, thats it. I provide a patch to the best of my knowledge and there is no way to
verify that patch until it is part of a release.
Not even in a testcase?
-Jaikiran
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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4:50 p.m.
let me add that the reporter can't even see my test case
On Apr 17, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com> wrote:
testcase is fine if there is a convention that a resolved issue can
be closed when it passes a given test case. If I write the testcase I test what I patch,
which is not the same as the reporter verifying the patch and making the transition from
resolved to closed.
On Apr 17, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Jaikiran Pai <jpai(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 April 2013 08:12 PM, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, thats it. I provide a patch to the best of my knowledge and there is no way
to verify that patch until it is part of a release.
> Not even in a testcase?
>
> -Jaikiran
>
>
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On Apr 17, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Fernando Lozano <fernando(a)lozano.eti.br> wrote:
Hi there,
The URL https://github.com/jbossas/jboss-eap returns 404. I can find only as tags and
releases, no eap.
So the only way to get sources for EAP is waiting for Red Hat to release the zip file at
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/jbeap/
And customers wishing to try a patch to confirm an issue is solved have no way to do
that, unless the developer sends them the patch file by other means (e-mail) and the patch
file does not depends on any other change made to the trunk since the latest release.
Am I right?
Yes, thats it. I provide a patch to the best of my knowledge and there is no way to verify
that patch until it is part of a release. The reporter can verify the release and only
then report back that the patch is not valid.
Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer on how to fix this other than "make
jboss-eap public". Then again, I don't really understand why it is so secret what
we do there if we release eap+sources every couple of months anyway.
[]s, Fernando Lozano
> … and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
>
> I think it is jboss-eap/6.x, and not jboss-as/7.1
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> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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>> If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be used to
verified it, no?
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>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com>
wrote:
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>>> All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes in the
next EAP release, can he?
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[]s, Fernando Lozano
> … and where is upstream for EAP-6.x ?
>
> I think it is jboss-eap/6.x, and not jboss-as/7.1
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> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Heiko Braun <hbraun(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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>> If the patch needs to be upstream first, the upstream build can be used to
verified it, no?
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>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com>
wrote:
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>>> All would be good if the reporter can verify the patch before it goes in the
next EAP release, can he?
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4:21 p.m.
At least the next EAP 6.1.0.Beta shouldn't be long, as long as it includes the fix.
On 17/04/2013 12:55, Thomas Diesler wrote:
The upstream process is fine.
This thread is about bugs <https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBEAP-8> reported
against EAP
6.1.0.Alpha1 <https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBEAP/fixforversion/12321330>
On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com
<mailto:darran.lofthouse@jboss.com>> wrote:
> All issues should be going upstream first anyway into what is currently marked as AS8
if
> that is what you mean?
>
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> On 17/04/13 11:16, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>> Hi Darran,
>>
>> this does not work. There is no living soul in QA that could verify my patch and
>> guarantee that it works for the reporter. For good reason, we distinguish
between
>> Resolved/Closed - only the reporter of an issue can make the transition from
Resolved to
>> Closed.
>>
>> I'd say this process is broken.
>>
>> I suggest we do all work in jboss-as until an issue is not only Resolved but also
Closed.
>> Closed issues can be picked up by QA and the associated commits cherry-picked
and
>> whatever other voodoo they do in their non-public systems.
>>
>> As it stands now the reporter has to wait until the next EAP release before he
can know
>> whether his issue is truly fixed. That is obviously broken, isn't it?
>>
>> cheers
>> --thomas
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com
>> <mailto:darran.lofthouse@jboss.com>> wrote:
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>>> Thomas - to get it into EAP it must have also had a BZ which means it
>>> would be verified by QE.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Darran Lofthouse.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/04/13 09:12, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the patch
is working so
>>>> that the issue can be closed?
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>> --thomas
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5:24 p.m.
This is another example of an internal Red Hat process discussion that has no business on
a list thats supposed to be about technical design and community releases.
On Apr 17, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Thomas Diesler <thomas.diesler(a)jboss.com> wrote:
Hi Darran,
this does not work. There is no living soul in QA that could verify my patch and
guarantee that it works for the reporter. For good reason, we distinguish between
Resolved/Closed - only the reporter of an issue can make the transition from Resolved to
Closed.
I'd say this process is broken.
I suggest we do all work in jboss-as until an issue is not only Resolved but also Closed.
Closed issues can be picked up by QA and the associated commits cherry-picked and whatever
other voodoo they do in their non-public systems.
As it stands now the reporter has to wait until the next EAP release before he can know
whether his issue is truly fixed. That is obviously broken, isn't it?
cheers
--thomas
On Apr 17, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Darran Lofthouse <darran.lofthouse(a)jboss.com> wrote:
> Thomas - to get it into EAP it must have also had a BZ which means it
> would be verified by QE.
>
> Regards,
> Darran Lofthouse.
>
>
> On 17/04/13 09:12, Thomas Diesler wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> when I resolve a bug for EAP, how can the reporter verify that the patch is
working so that the issue can be closed?
>>
>> cheers
>> --thomas
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